Work ethic is just a by product of Standards created to uphold a certian way of maintaning order

Ethics is just a standard of Maintance

alright you did it

you won

we aren't well sorted in defining hard concepts because its not taught rationally, we all watch politics etc for entertainment but do not often take steps to clearly define things for ourselves, instead just being impressed somebody has a very basic understanding and therfor can make or refute a point in a way we all should be capable of but aren't

@Matt-Kill723 shit

Thats bad

@Yugure people may not see everything without bias but we can still use reason to the degree that it exists objectivisism is just using that to your best interests as reason as a guider and values being the purpose of life plus people see things as groups and tribes because of the collective ideology that been taught to them

:^|

>:^|

at that point we give up and just go with "emotions"

@Ottobon yes and no

https://scontent.fbkl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45222656_305068466994643_1141961160384315392_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fbkl1-1.fna&oh=59de0d76f6eb1e7b1bcfa4e7416f31a2&oe=5C3C1B16

ONLY A MINOR CORRECTION
I'M SURE THEY GOT THE JIST OF IT THOUGH

ha

tim pool: "the associated press is greaT"

Termites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gS8kKxbLng

so many termites

@Yugure I recommend reading the fountainhead if you want to see these ideas in action in the form of Howard Roark

Ttv. That's been a part of our mental evolutionary path for centuries, we have seen things from tibalistic perspectives since before we could write laws. Also, again that's the point of an Ethos pathos logos argument. Staistics are important in modern debate to reinforce your view, but you need to use emotional appeals to saw the audience

I still gotta read "the wrath of nation's" for a lit review on nationalism and ethnic conflict for a college class

I hate tribalism... but right now, one side wants to oppress the other through censorship and manipulation. :\

Fountainhead > Anthem > Atlas Shrugged >>>>>>>>> We The Living
CMM

@Yugure yes emotions are important but reason even more so also why we have been tribes is because it was not possible to survive without others look at when we started to reason fire came along trade plants

How can we avoid tribalism when one side goes full tribal and wants to make us secondary citizens in our own nation?

The left has become something of oppressors.

Tribalism right now isnt a choice as one side forces you the US or them Scenario

Be loyal to ideas, not to politicians

@Dusty Morgan modern collectivism is a more updated tribalism for more insight

Exactly @Swedishmafia101

Thank you

Only thing we can do is push back, fight hard, and try to save the ideals our nation was founded on.

Ideals that were designed to give everyone equal opportunity and equal rights.

@Dusty Morgan Aristotle is the greatest thing that could ever happen to the west

I would say dont fight fire with fire. peoples minds change when they realize the "enemy" isnt as violent as there side is

Kind of hard to see that when our side has been nice...

Lol

Non-stop, getting constantly attacked.

im talking from the Crazy's side