Personally, I think we do better as individuals, but humanity is predisposed to collectivism

not necessarily

@Yugure yes I know collective ideology has been with us along time but we can have the same thing with individuals working towards a common goal

@Yugure the uneducated will always be taken advantage off by the those who run Political partys . to be told there is a US vs THEM narative

@Ottobon hes a collectivist

thats what a collective is

Each person has a Side

Don't get me wrong, collectivism does have its place.

col·lec·tive
/kəˈlektiv/Verzenden
adjective
1.
done by people acting as a group.

Only when facing an external threat to protect nation.

But we must not forget our values and ideals.

Democracy is a collective effort

Well that's where the idea of "politics stops at the border" comes from

Seperate collective efforts

@Dr.Wol no im talking about philosophy

then go to Debate channel

i know, but definitions matter 😛

collectivism is based on thinking as a group or doing stuff as a group

@Existence is identity ya sure, i don't think thats what gives him heat from say CNN etc or w/e tho which is what i was talking about him being a (funny, to some, not to others) asshole

@Existence is identity ..that's not collectivism

you mean collectivism as "Group is more important than the individual"

Work as a group to defend our nation... that is positive type of collectivism.

@Yugure yes it is

i bet you wash your hands everytime someone disagrees with you sick basterd

But that definition any republic or Democracy is collectivist

But that definition any republic or Democracy is collectivist

Working as a group to clean up our parks.... that is a form of collectivism.

@Yugure yes it is

But the collectivism by the left... is fucking negative as hell.

And dangerous.

That is tribal collectivism.

they want to say there collective is more important to maintain and that the others are harmfull.

any collectivism is bad

Hah

collectivism on left = Group survival is more important than its individual members

Collectivism is the belief that people are only part of a group, not individuals

I.E. just cause your black you must vite democrat

Okay then... what am I describing?

that

@Dusty Morgan hes baiting

Its just baiting