Message from @Dennafen

Discord ID: 509007600935895061


2018-11-05 14:12:21 UTC  

the people claiming to be about equality, equity, and socialism are predominantly wealthy and dont understand the poor working class

2018-11-05 14:12:42 UTC  

they don't understand humans in general

2018-11-05 14:12:42 UTC  

Why would anyone work if all their money is taken by the government and given to people who don't work?

2018-11-05 14:12:47 UTC  

@Dusty Morgan UBI doesn't mean you won't work.

2018-11-05 14:12:54 UTC  

*cough* BernandJerry's *cough*

2018-11-05 14:12:56 UTC  

UBI itself doesn't work 😉

2018-11-05 14:13:01 UTC  

Plus the quality of the work would go do... people would become lazy. Why work if you are going to get Universe Income?

2018-11-05 14:13:06 UTC  

Who would do the jobs?

2018-11-05 14:13:08 UTC  

how long do we have to wait, until these rich socialists start redistributing their wealth? :P

2018-11-05 14:13:10 UTC  

There is no incentive.

2018-11-05 14:13:24 UTC  

Can you live on $1000 a month?

2018-11-05 14:13:38 UTC  

Only time that could feasibly work, and that is a huge gamble, if everything was automatized.

2018-11-05 14:13:40 UTC  

eternity Aghost,

Most of those rich socialists don't look at their own wealth, they jsut see the "richer" people, the 1%

2018-11-05 14:13:47 UTC  

Yes I could if there isn't any inflation involved.

2018-11-05 14:14:00 UTC  

1% owns 80% of the wealth, so since i'm not 1% we can distribute their 80% and i can keep mine!

2018-11-05 14:14:00 UTC  

Got to remember, inflation could lead to that 10K being worthless.

2018-11-05 14:14:05 UTC  

@Dusty Morgan Oh yeah, one more thing, Abolition of profit

2018-11-05 14:14:06 UTC  

There's always inflation.

2018-11-05 14:14:17 UTC  

No 1k

2018-11-05 14:14:20 UTC  

not 10k

2018-11-05 14:14:28 UTC  

12k a year

2018-11-05 14:14:29 UTC  

Abolition of Profit, now why would anyone even work?

2018-11-05 14:14:31 UTC  

Abolition of profit is seriously the dumbest thing ever 😄

2018-11-05 14:14:45 UTC  

Why would anyone pick up a tool or axe? They are not getting anything out of it.

2018-11-05 14:15:18 UTC  

For the good of the motherland comrad!

2018-11-05 14:15:22 UTC  

And how would the government even tax the citizens to fund universal income and universal healthcare if no one gets any money?

2018-11-05 14:15:26 UTC  

You will not work?

2018-11-05 14:15:28 UTC  

Gulag for you.

2018-11-05 14:15:41 UTC  

You really don't understand UBI at all.

2018-11-05 14:15:43 UTC  

Only way they could make that work is by FORCING people.

2018-11-05 14:15:50 UTC  

No.

2018-11-05 14:16:00 UTC  

Look the only thing you have to understand about this is that they see it as
"People are slaves to the minimum wage, so if we removed the NEED for minimum work to survive, people will be able to persuit their dreams"

completely forgetting that those jobs still have to be filled by someone

2018-11-05 14:16:14 UTC  

No.

2018-11-05 14:16:25 UTC  

That is factually incorrect.

2018-11-05 14:16:31 UTC  

To quote Tim.

2018-11-05 14:16:32 UTC  

*Rolls eyes.* A few of us, on this discord, could easily poke holes in their logic.

2018-11-05 14:16:44 UTC  

well they dont have to be
but if the jobs are important enough ,then the wage will reflect that

2018-11-05 14:16:49 UTC  

or thats how it should be right?

2018-11-05 14:16:49 UTC  

If their logic was solid, we wouldn't be against their argument 😉

2018-11-05 14:16:59 UTC  

nah

2018-11-05 14:17:01 UTC  

You can't discount human nature when creating these policies and logic.