I wonder what the 'hey nonny' is in reference to

You can just call it a reach around

I think it’s just idle talk

but she did write her opinions - she just didn't express herself vocally

Like something you say out of boredom when you’ve nothing else to say

pen like a baton

not really tho

this reminds me of hardcore depression / anxiety

what she wants to express are truly deep and personal but she doesn't know how to approach it

"best verb, right noun" also like perfectionism

she wants to get her words just right so bad that she put herself into a situation where she is never truly satisfied with what she thinks/writes/says

another thing with the skull - even when these thoughts / situations pass, she *is still* trying to find the right thing to say

maybe I'm misunderstanding the poem, but that what it seems like imo

like michael jackson and his nose

Poems are broad and I think the head of English is a statement of how we interpret poems for a theme to prove something in school

good point.

Maybe anon is a statement of feminism because in the first stanza duffy mentions jobs taken up by women

what about this perspective: all of the roles mentioned are generally what women fall into. Medical, mother, nun - or a nobody. All of these roles define women but without a certain title an argument could be made how lost the author feels without an identifier

she has no sense of purpose or meaning for life

hence her lack of articulating herself

And without a calling she takes what she loves and sees nothing. She might be an amazing writer, but it isn’t expected of her.

possibly?

I say roles in the sense of personality traits rather than duties dedicated to a person

like he is smart, or she is pretty

I feel roles are expectations, and these expectations are specific duties.

🤔

you can take my opinion with a grain of salt. your line of logic works

So hey nonny nonny was from a Shakespearean play “much ado about nothing”

really? that's interesting

yeah, it definitely ties with your reasoning than mine

Well that’s the point of my IOC idea, I think I’ll bring it up later and add my own full interpretation of the poem

how long do you have to prepare for the presentation?

Oh well it’s the Wednesday before thanksgiving so plenty of time

that's good news!

It’s just not going to dominate my realm of thinking right now

ok. like I said, take my interpretation of the poem with a grain of salt. This poem hit a close to home so I may have missed it's actual meaning

don't these seem like the words of someone who has an ear for "dog whistles" that aren't being blown?

hot dam that's a mess

the top and bottom lines i mean. i agreed that the ad's false equivalency with the cop killer and the whole caravan was kinda slimy

some bad hombres but it's not likely at all that they're ALL ready to break the fuckin doors down

Serious question: