No, there are systems in place that have predictive capability

I'm so tired of this argument

That you have no tested, you have not documented, that you trust because...Faith?

Theres something better than religion,

The Human spirit!

The drive to not be nice cuz of fear of punishment, but be nice cuz Humanity can become super awesome

@Paradox and we all can verify the results ourselves.

I have better shit to do. Go try believing in another form of mathematics and see how much sbit you can predict

@Redneo both. Made me bored, was boring. Whole experience was boring. I'd sooner bite the bullet than be that bored again.

>you haven't verified
I have

Sure, you have too much shit too do. I get that.

I just don't see much of a difference. we all believe in shit, without knowing it to be true.

so religious or not, belief itself isn't a part of any distinction

>makes assertions
>ignores counterpoints

Beeman, 2+2 is not always 4

Nah I'm done lol

😏 😂

theres a difference in "believing, for lack of better knowledge"
and "Believing cuz you want to believe and fuck reality cuz i'm entitled"

Ok, but which is the religious one and which isn't and why?

here is a problem: When humans more or less blindly follow something or believe in something, they can complete amazing things without even, necessarily, a drop in living standards. But when not blindly following, they can get stuck in things like the paradox of choice. However, when they do blindly follow, they are easily manipulated and easily lead in a direction that is detrimental to nearly everyone.

the religious one is the entitled shit one,

Any current religion disproves itself

I'm fine with believing theres a greater being out there,

But any religion is just fan-fic for power

Disproves itself? Is it making a claim?

yes

I'm not religious so, please do tell.

that theres some supernatural sky being that observes all, and somehow came into existance

thats 90% of religions generally

Ok, so how has that been disproven?

By itself?

@Dr.Wol they dont neccessarily say that being actualy came into existance. Just like we have no reason to believe the universe ever came into existance

cuz extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence,

Anything claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

fair point Punks

there is a difference between not being proven, and being disproven

Right, but dismissing something isn't what you said.

well each religion is disproven by the other religions

You said they disprove themselves.

something may never be proven in your lifetime, that does not mean it is disproven

cuz they all claim to be the one true one

disprove =/= dismiss

@Dr.Wol well, discordianism affirms all religions - all things are true, even those that are false.

lets take the bible, it disproves other religions cuz its skylord says there is no other god

how many physicists came up with a theory that was not proven in their lifetime but later proven.