Message from @Dvir

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2018-11-11 05:30:50 UTC  

Have the rise of some hardcore libertarian party.

2018-11-11 05:31:07 UTC  

I want to do away with First Past the Post so we can have multiple parties

2018-11-11 05:31:11 UTC  

viably

2018-11-11 05:31:11 UTC  

"Minimize taxes, the leeches will be physically removed."

2018-11-11 05:31:28 UTC  

the libertarians are to Ancap

2018-11-11 05:31:54 UTC  

The *goal* of a lot of Libertarians is to minimal government or anarchy.

2018-11-11 05:32:01 UTC  

Their *methods* can be...drastic.

2018-11-11 05:32:31 UTC  

anarchism, even anarcho-capitalism is both a ludicrous and undesirable form of government.

2018-11-11 05:32:46 UTC  

I'm not saying your wrong.

2018-11-11 05:33:04 UTC  

Why would you centralize all authority within the capitalist system? How is that any better than centralizing all authority with the state?

2018-11-11 05:33:32 UTC  

I'm just saying I want to see the hardline libertarians push the Republicans into the old Democratic slot: comparatively more taxes and less hardline rhetoric.

2018-11-11 05:33:33 UTC  

And anarchy invariable gives over to authoritarianism due to power vacuum

2018-11-11 05:33:59 UTC  

anarcho-capitalism wouldn't be any different. Just in this case it would be mega-corporations

2018-11-11 05:34:33 UTC  

Being full libertarian and anarcho-capit. Aren't those the same?

2018-11-11 05:34:50 UTC  

No, not necessarily.

2018-11-11 05:34:57 UTC  

Hrmmm <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2018-11-11 05:35:03 UTC  

It is a similar dichotomy between communism and socialism.

2018-11-11 05:35:17 UTC  

there are Libertarians that recognize the need of a powerful government to maintain the environment necessary for large scale individual freedoms.

2018-11-11 05:35:32 UTC  

Then they aren't *real* libertarians

2018-11-11 05:35:36 UTC  

They are classical liberals

2018-11-11 05:35:52 UTC  

Not really. Those groups don't really recognize the legitimacy or utility of democracy.

2018-11-11 05:36:00 UTC  

In all honesty. I think it should be illegal to tamper with American history.

2018-11-11 05:36:02 UTC  

So, maybe classical, but not really liberal.

2018-11-11 05:38:50 UTC  

it should be illegal to tamper with history,period

2018-11-11 05:39:45 UTC  

Well it isn't illegal for Democrats to tamper with history books, creating sanitized versions of it that paints them in better light.

2018-11-11 05:40:07 UTC  

I'm naturally a defiant person at times, when anyone tells me to do something I want to do the opposite lol...

2018-11-11 05:40:23 UTC  

I think we should pass a law that would bar tampering of history books. Democrats have committed atrocities and they should face the responsibilities for those atrocities.

2018-11-11 05:40:53 UTC  

Would it be as illegal as that time Teddy Roosevelt personally shot his political opponents to take the 1920 election?

2018-11-11 05:41:29 UTC  

```Well it isn't illegal for Democrats to tamper with history books, creating sanitized versions of it that paints them in better light.```
Sadly...
History should be truthful and not paint something in a better or worse light.

2018-11-11 05:41:45 UTC  

Lol... Republicans getting labeled as the racists, etc, how the fuck did this happend?

2018-11-11 05:41:58 UTC  

Lies and Propaganda, what else?

2018-11-11 05:42:04 UTC  

And dems in Power

2018-11-11 05:42:19 UTC  

Um, no one is denying that the Democratic Party was the party of Jim Crow until the 60's

2018-11-11 05:42:31 UTC  

This isn't even a thing

2018-11-11 05:42:38 UTC  

Did they change?

2018-11-11 05:42:43 UTC  

they still play the racist game though