lol

There are lesbians who use anonymous donor sperm

They can then both be named on the BC

If you're extra fancy iirc there's a method that uses bone marrow so it could be genetically both of yours

Wait, so they *can* do that now? Go figure.

In my case it's a little different. I'll fess up. I produced the sperm for our kids. I am a fully post-op transwoman and have been "jewel free" since last decade, shortly after our son (now 17yo) was born. This is why I mention that we're platonic and that my wife doesn't find me attractive. Just as you can't turn a gay person straight, you cannot turn a straight person gay.

We stuck together despite it being rather a surprise for her at the time and are very happy now.

I'm not convinced you can't turn a straight person gay, or a gay person straight. The question with that is whether what's required to do that is ethical and/or causes even more harm.

I cant wait to see the logical progression of that line of thinking

Both of them that is

Mike Pence knows how to straighten out a gay person

All I can tell you is that my wife *wanted* to follow me down this path and be sexually active together. We went to "toy" stores and did the strap on thing. In the end she had to get drunk beforehand and that just made no sense.

I've seen a lot of kids really messed by by "reparative therapy"

I have a friend who I'd say was likely turned gay.

Mike "if you like cock prepare for a shock" Pence

It's anecdotal, and can't in any way be indicative of how most gay people are, but I'm fairly certain of it

based on what exactly?

I know a fair few people who have changed their sexuality. Some of them multiple times throughout their lives.

Well, I base it on my knowledge of him as a person.

I don't believe there's any ethical way to change a person's orientation.
The closest I've seen to changing orientations is trauma which often are on the same level as trauma which induces personality disorders.

A lot of people are bi and can go either way whether they admit it or not, but someone who is firmly straight is pretty well set

It would stand to reason that people can change their own preferences

I only came to appreciate that through our experience

If that werent the case bisexuality wouldnt be a thing

But not everyone is bi

They dont need to be bi in order to be able to change their preference

***I'm bi, you're bi, aren't we all a little bi?***

look at ancient greece though.....

@Paradox you can convince someone even if he isn't naturally, his brain will then keep convincing him he is straight/gay, but he might not actually be happy about it

So my answer is yes you can but if the person isn't gay/straight naturally he will not be happy

a clockwork orange

and you don't think that falls into the "causes more harm" category?

> attacks buzzfeed for misgendering

Sure

> misgenders himself

top kek tim

?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bZp1cFi5LQ ? :v

Heh

Okay, now we can get to the meat of the topic. First off, too many in the trans community are batshit crazy.

it's 2018, everybody is batshit crazy