That's too late.

18 weeks now, it will certainly reduce soon

To save an 18wo it will cost millions and likely not be successful. 26wo is about as early as we see any success.

If you already have 4 Children, I'm ok for abortion

But i believe it's more moral than 21 weeks, and feasible enough for both sides to accept

but the first child? NO

But I don't think that potential for life is a good argument, because every egg has a potential for life, given no genetic issues.

By the way, if I can no longer suffer and am just a burden to people, you have permission to get rid of me, too.

That said, I am not averse to using 18wo

I will volunteer for my own moral standards.

As long as a the pregnancy is far enough along that a woman knows she's pregnant, give a cushion beyond that and draw a line. 18wo sounds reasonable.

If the child can be kept separate from the mother, the mother can simply give up the child instead of killing it

Again, exception for life of the mother

Well of course, but that's granted tbh

Alright if you can keep it seperate from the mother sure

but who accepts responsiblity?

for the child I mean

It being the mother's body is not a good argument, though, either. A child is dependent on a caregiver, even after birth. Yet, if you just let your child starve, you are liable.

That will have to be decided in a case by case basis

Maybe the child will be adopted

Forcing a premature birth is unethical in so many ways I don't have time enough in a day to describe

Maybe the taxpayers will have to pay

A child being dependent, on the body or in any other way, is not a moral argument for that person it depends on to pull the plug.

Because Aborting can also be a financial thing too I'm not too sure if its just for convenience yknow

even then it's not ethical but

it's a very real problem

Well what's less ethical, premature birth or execution?

We can take care of millions of single mothers. I'd rather take care of another life than her ass.

If you are condemning someone to elective blindness, nearly impossible breathing, and muscular issues...

We would even be better off if we paid for two parent households. The reduction in crime and other social issues would make up for it.

I hear so much about the best interest of the child, but CPS and family courts don't give a damn about children.

They are f*cking pawns to them.

I don't disagree about the two-parent household, I just want to be cognizant of abusive relationships and the disaster those are for the partners and the kids.

I personal believe kids need two-parent households.

As it is now, we give millions of kids to abusive mothers.

Why? Simply because they have a fucking vagina.

Having seen what you're talking about, I elect not to argue against that statement

You can be Jesus and walk on water, and many family courts will still hand the child to the mother.

I'm okay with abortion simply because it reduces the population of peoples who generally should not be reproducing

That said, I have watched some heroic single moms persevere

I mean, think about it: