Message from @Undead Mockingbird

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2018-11-17 14:55:37 UTC  

I will volunteer for my own moral standards.

2018-11-17 14:56:30 UTC  

As long as a the pregnancy is far enough along that a woman knows she's pregnant, give a cushion beyond that and draw a line. 18wo sounds reasonable.

2018-11-17 14:56:39 UTC  

If the child can be kept separate from the mother, the mother can simply give up the child instead of killing it

2018-11-17 14:56:50 UTC  

Again, exception for life of the mother

2018-11-17 14:57:08 UTC  

Well of course, but that's granted tbh

2018-11-17 14:57:09 UTC  

Alright if you can keep it seperate from the mother sure

2018-11-17 14:57:13 UTC  

but who accepts responsiblity?

2018-11-17 14:57:19 UTC  

for the child I mean

2018-11-17 14:57:25 UTC  

It being the mother's body is not a good argument, though, either. A child is dependent on a caregiver, even after birth. Yet, if you just let your child starve, you are liable.

2018-11-17 14:57:32 UTC  

That will have to be decided in a case by case basis

2018-11-17 14:57:39 UTC  

Maybe the child will be adopted

2018-11-17 14:57:41 UTC  

Forcing a premature birth is unethical in so many ways I don't have time enough in a day to describe

2018-11-17 14:57:48 UTC  

Maybe the taxpayers will have to pay

2018-11-17 14:57:53 UTC  

A child being dependent, on the body or in any other way, is not a moral argument for that person it depends on to pull the plug.

2018-11-17 14:58:01 UTC  

Because Aborting can also be a financial thing too I'm not too sure if its just for convenience yknow

2018-11-17 14:58:13 UTC  

even then it's not ethical but

2018-11-17 14:58:16 UTC  

it's a very real problem

2018-11-17 14:58:40 UTC  

Well what's less ethical, premature birth or execution?

2018-11-17 14:58:50 UTC  

We can take care of millions of single mothers. I'd rather take care of another life than her ass.

2018-11-17 14:59:33 UTC  

If you are condemning someone to elective blindness, nearly impossible breathing, and muscular issues...

2018-11-17 14:59:52 UTC  

We would even be better off if we paid for two parent households. The reduction in crime and other social issues would make up for it.

2018-11-17 15:00:42 UTC  

I hear so much about the best interest of the child, but CPS and family courts don't give a damn about children.

2018-11-17 15:00:50 UTC  

They are f*cking pawns to them.

2018-11-17 15:00:54 UTC  

I don't disagree about the two-parent household, I just want to be cognizant of abusive relationships and the disaster those are for the partners and the kids.

2018-11-17 15:01:14 UTC  

I personal believe kids need two-parent households.

2018-11-17 15:01:25 UTC  

As it is now, we give millions of kids to abusive mothers.

2018-11-17 15:01:32 UTC  

Why? Simply because they have a fucking vagina.

2018-11-17 15:01:47 UTC  

Having seen what you're talking about, I elect not to argue against that statement

2018-11-17 15:01:54 UTC  

You can be Jesus and walk on water, and many family courts will still hand the child to the mother.

2018-11-17 15:02:06 UTC  

I'm okay with abortion simply because it reduces the population of peoples who generally should not be reproducing

2018-11-17 15:02:13 UTC  

That said, I have watched some heroic single moms persevere

2018-11-17 15:02:15 UTC  

I mean, think about it:

2018-11-17 15:02:20 UTC  

Who is getting the most abortions right now?

2018-11-17 15:02:30 UTC  

In contested cases, more than 93% of sole custody goes to mothers. You can't tell me that having a vagina makes you THAT much better, especially when we live in a time of supposedly no difference between men and women.

2018-11-17 15:02:40 UTC  

This is a pile of feces that stinks to high heavens.

2018-11-17 15:02:57 UTC  

I agree that just because a person is female or the mother doesn't mean they are necessarily the best parent

2018-11-17 15:03:21 UTC  

I know some kick ass dads

2018-11-17 15:04:06 UTC  

I actually have a staff member whose wife is a corporate lawyer and he will be the primary parent when their kid is born because he wants to dote and she's all about career.

2018-11-17 15:05:31 UTC  

In my own relationship my wife was the gestating parent but I was the nurturing parent

2018-11-17 15:06:58 UTC  

Giving birth is not some magical connection although it is pretty amazing and I would have given pretty much anything to have birthed one or both of our kids. *sigh*

2018-11-17 15:07:30 UTC  

```Who is getting the most abortions right now?```
IIRC its black chicks