Message from @Undead Mockingbird

Discord ID: 513365797578735617


2018-11-17 14:49:32 UTC  

Like people are allowed to do shitty things

2018-11-17 14:49:39 UTC  

just like freedom of speech, people are allowed to say shitty things

2018-11-17 14:49:42 UTC  

if it's lega

2018-11-17 14:49:44 UTC  

I personally won't perform an abortion that isn't to save a mother's life and I am open to restrictions after a certain time

2018-11-17 14:49:48 UTC  

@MysticEyes💕 Is abortion limit being reduced according to the earliest a child can be kept alive, good enough?

2018-11-17 14:50:04 UTC  

If it can suffer, don't abort it.

2018-11-17 14:50:08 UTC  

That should be the moral standard.

2018-11-17 14:50:11 UTC  

At minimum

2018-11-17 14:50:13 UTC  

```Yes, a lot of men think like that, if they admit it or not.
They are happy when it happens to other men, becaues they think they are too damn clever for this like that to happen to them```
Yeah, like Michael A. who got #metoo'd recently and is in jail because of that

2018-11-17 14:50:19 UTC  

So let's figure out at what point it can sense pain.

2018-11-17 14:50:21 UTC  

Done.

2018-11-17 14:50:39 UTC  

I don't necessarily disagree with that standard, UM...life of the mother notwithstanding of course

2018-11-17 14:50:44 UTC  

I think it is abhorrent to abort a child if it can be saved

2018-11-17 14:50:46 UTC  

Women have generally evolved to be mentally children, but legally fuckable due to the demands of sexual selection being onesided on the female's part

2018-11-17 14:51:06 UTC  

Yes, life of mother notwithstanding.

2018-11-17 14:51:22 UTC  

But limits like heartbeat and pain aren't really good enough

2018-11-17 14:51:27 UTC  

Why?

2018-11-17 14:51:30 UTC  

huh? "mentally children"? By evolved, you mean genetically?

2018-11-17 14:51:38 UTC  

Cos pro choice doesn't like that

2018-11-17 14:51:42 UTC  

Lawrence Kohlberg

2018-11-17 14:52:24 UTC  

I don't care what either side likes. If I have to upset both sides, so be it.

2018-11-17 14:52:25 UTC  

See I really don't know :/

2018-11-17 14:52:32 UTC  

I'm literally ignorant

2018-11-17 14:52:38 UTC  

I will follow my own moral standards.

2018-11-17 14:52:40 UTC  

and not by choice

2018-11-17 14:52:45 UTC  

I flat out don't know a good resolution for this problem

2018-11-17 14:52:53 UTC  

I have seen so much bullshit happen, because everybody thought it was okay.

2018-11-17 14:53:00 UTC  

I will never again defer for morality to another person.

2018-11-17 14:53:06 UTC  

I read about something to do with the child gaining conciousness

2018-11-17 14:53:10 UTC  

so at that stage I'd probably say

2018-11-17 14:53:33 UTC  

aborting then and any later is unethical

2018-11-17 14:53:33 UTC  

How about, no abortion if the child can be kept alive separate from the mother

2018-11-17 14:53:45 UTC  

That's too late.

2018-11-17 14:53:58 UTC  

18 weeks now, it will certainly reduce soon

2018-11-17 14:54:35 UTC  

To save an 18wo it will cost millions and likely not be successful. 26wo is about as early as we see any success.

2018-11-17 14:54:35 UTC  

If you already have 4 Children, I'm ok for abortion

2018-11-17 14:54:37 UTC  

But i believe it's more moral than 21 weeks, and feasible enough for both sides to accept

2018-11-17 14:54:40 UTC  

but the first child? NO

2018-11-17 14:54:41 UTC  

But I don't think that potential for life is a good argument, because every egg has a potential for life, given no genetic issues.

2018-11-17 14:55:29 UTC  

By the way, if I can no longer suffer and am just a burden to people, you have permission to get rid of me, too.

2018-11-17 14:55:31 UTC  

That said, I am not averse to using 18wo