In China, you can choose alternative telecom companies, as long as you live in a metropolitan area.

not talking about Telecom

Talking about chinese goods and services

to free or not to free

Telecom is a good and service

all telecon companys are run by the state .

doesnt matter how fucking private they classify that shit

Okay, so you experience disadvantages if you don't choose what the state offers.

Is that alone a criterion for socialism?

You mean regulated by the state

But like hey

the criterion for socialism is that the state owns the means of production

never said it was good

China has multiple disqualifying factors
1. The state owns companies, and there's no legal basis for privately owning your company or competing with those companies
2. The state owns all the land

1 more time

I might stop posting it

Yes, but it's a bit hard to pin it down. Usually, those systems are hybrid. It's not all one or the other.

What if the state owns some means of production?

What if you only have slight disadvantages by not choosing public health insurance in Europe?

Codes... No one asked you.if it was good or not.

and I dont mean all the land as in "it has borders", I mean "land ownership" is a lease agreement

never said it was good

omg

But hey, keep on ignoring it

no one said you did

inb4 "I was merely pretending"

Let's not worry about good and bad for now.

Let's just nail it down.

Its the illusion of Privatization hence A hybrid State Capitalist system . they allow outside investment "IF" investment follows chinese Contract and obligations. They allow you investment from them If you dont Call taiwan a sovereign nation. If my country says Taiwan is A sovereighn country we lose 2.5 billion $ In Projects for a year . So there is a catch Same goes for the people in china taking Bank loans and buying goods and services .

how is the illusion of something that thing?

Beemann: "Capitalism means private ownership and profit"
Codes: "I never said it was good"

Walsp gets it

100%

Love this guy

if I say I have the illusion of being a doctor, how am I a doctor?

it means, definitively, that I am not

Okay, are trade tariffs a disqualifying criterion then?

Its not how we define it its how the State defines it in China and how they make it look to the outside world

and am *pretending* to be

no, it's not how it works lol, it's how it functions

But hey, I never said it was good capitalism

Its Sun tsu in all of it