Let's just nail it down.

Its the illusion of Privatization hence A hybrid State Capitalist system . they allow outside investment "IF" investment follows chinese Contract and obligations. They allow you investment from them If you dont Call taiwan a sovereign nation. If my country says Taiwan is A sovereighn country we lose 2.5 billion $ In Projects for a year . So there is a catch Same goes for the people in china taking Bank loans and buying goods and services .

how is the illusion of something that thing?

Beemann: "Capitalism means private ownership and profit"
Codes: "I never said it was good"

Walsp gets it

100%

Love this guy

if I say I have the illusion of being a doctor, how am I a doctor?

it means, definitively, that I am not

Okay, are trade tariffs a disqualifying criterion then?

Its not how we define it its how the State defines it in China and how they make it look to the outside world

and am *pretending* to be

no, it's not how it works lol, it's how it functions

But hey, I never said it was good capitalism

Its Sun tsu in all of it

😏

when china puffs its chest its weak while it pretends to be strong .

When they back down at Trump they are strong and plan to make themselves look weak

You cant have state run capitalism, its literally in opposition to it

State run capitalism is a simple term for State run for-profit business

for it to be capitalist it would have to be privately owned, not owned by the state

cuz people understand capitalism to mean making profit

Reminder that this is the definition of capitalism from basically every source

Or in otherwords, planned capitalist economy

Yes the work around is china allows Certian people to run these companys

hence its state run

Okay, so how much does a state have to be involved in the markets before it is no longer capitalist?

they have to be members of the party

every form of capitalism is planned, private companies plan for business too 😉

How much would America need to get involved in her markets for it to no longer be capitalist? What are the criteria?

>capitalism is private ownership
>ergo state ownership is capitalism
no this is too dumb now

i know But not all goverments Controll your fucking expenses to the T if you dont Sing the national anthem wrong

Tbh whenever I see green text I ignore it

Okay, but there are federally owned lands in the US, no?

@Undead Mockingbird depending on who you ask, it already is socialist.

Cause it shows you have used 4chan too much

Well, I'm asking you now.

Why cant people fucking do research

Idk really, heading too much in the wrong direction.

personally i'd say it would be socialist if the state makes money from a company outside taxes, and can have influence on their business actions

I have. And it's still confusing to me, TBH.

tbh redefining capitalism so that everything is capitalist is brainlet tier

Aka towards socialism. How close? Hard to say.