Message from @The Yellow King

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2018-11-23 18:36:57 UTC  

Well what did you expect? They just said it's LEGAL to FGM.

2018-11-23 18:37:03 UTC  

Oh.

2018-11-23 18:37:08 UTC  

It's 100% legal now, from the federal government.

2018-11-23 18:37:11 UTC  

Well, that's messed up.

2018-11-23 18:37:26 UTC  

no, they didn't @JustTom
they said ICC does not cover non-commercial events

2018-11-23 18:37:26 UTC  

No, I think the laws are being written to address any surgery that is not medically necessary except the removal of the foreskin of a male baby.

2018-11-23 18:37:28 UTC  

I mean that is kind of the issue once you can harm others with religious freedom as your defence it is scary.
Because genital mutilation is not nice regardless of gender.

2018-11-23 18:37:40 UTC  

which is a massive step in the right direction after Raich

2018-11-23 18:37:48 UTC  

The ruling says:
Federal government: "Not our problem, go cut her up all you want jackasses."
States: "OH FUCK, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? FUCK FUCK FUCK, PASS LAWS TO STOP THIS ASAP!"

2018-11-23 18:38:06 UTC  

That still seems to be inconsistent between genders.

2018-11-23 18:38:12 UTC  

Again, the point isn't that it should be legal. The point is that it is the states and not the federal gov't that has the authority to do it

2018-11-23 18:38:24 UTC  

You are not allowed to cut away any sort of skin if the infant is female.

2018-11-23 18:38:34 UTC  

With male infants it's still okay, apparently.

2018-11-23 18:38:34 UTC  

if you want FGM regulated at the federal level,
you need either a Constitutional Amendment or a treaty to stamp it out

2018-11-23 18:38:43 UTC  

damn I can actually go for all 3 days this year

2018-11-23 18:38:58 UTC  

I'm actually against male circumcision but it's up to each state to decide what they should consider acceptable

2018-11-23 18:39:05 UTC  

My son is not circumcised

2018-11-23 18:39:10 UTC  

Rip That is what happened to me

2018-11-23 18:39:41 UTC  

@Undead Mockingbird The point of the ruling was simply this: the federal government doesn't give a shit how badly you mutilate someone's pussy or dick, they threw their hands up and are now saying "Not our problem. You states gotta regulate it yourselves. PEACE OUT, WE'RE GOING TO SPACE-VEGAS AND GETTIN' US SOME HOOKERS!"

2018-11-23 18:39:43 UTC  

What was their exact reasoning?

2018-11-23 18:39:57 UTC  

Why the feds can't do it

2018-11-23 18:40:24 UTC  

No, the ruling is that the Constitution, the highest law of a land of laws, FORBIDS the federal government from making that law

2018-11-23 18:40:32 UTC  

Their reason is "Tenth Ammendment says so, lol."

2018-11-23 18:41:01 UTC  

What? That is ridiculous

2018-11-23 18:41:05 UTC  

Even the judge stated in his ruling an encouragement to states to do their fucking job for once.

2018-11-23 18:41:57 UTC  

Guess the federal agents can't arrest people for pot anymore. Since controlled substances are not in there either

2018-11-23 18:42:08 UTC  

Ah, yes.

2018-11-23 18:42:12 UTC  

What about pot lawS?

2018-11-23 18:42:12 UTC  

Unless you count that one amendment that was overturned

2018-11-23 18:42:13 UTC  

Yeah, apparently this ruling could spread.
It could easily use this ruling to say murder, rape, and any number of other things previously deemed crimes, are now federally legal and groups like the FBI are not allowed to arrest you for that shit anymore, because only the individual states can go after you.

2018-11-23 18:42:37 UTC  

It's dumb this judge should be disbarred

2018-11-23 18:42:39 UTC  

I think the feds are actually overstepping their powers quite a bit in other areas, if they cannot regulate that.

2018-11-23 18:42:59 UTC  

Yeah

2018-11-23 18:43:19 UTC  

Also, when those things are in the hands of states, usually changes in law can be made more quickly.

2018-11-23 18:43:39 UTC  

Needing a constitutional amendment for every federal law is insanity

2018-11-23 18:43:57 UTC  

Things take forever and are usually prohibitively expensive for individuals when they have to take it all the way to the Supreme Court.

2018-11-23 18:44:23 UTC  

The Controlled Substances Act is founded on interstate commerce clause. I do believe that for drugs produced within a state that the Act is npot legitimate.

2018-11-23 18:44:23 UTC  

Well this ruling officially says that any federal law that isn't in the constitution: Is now worth less than toilet paper, because it has no value anymore. It's either the constitution, or state laws, only.

2018-11-23 18:44:36 UTC  

the Constitution limits Federal authority to only those powers delegated to it
by the Constitution itself, or a "law of nations" (treaty)
absent an explicit power to regulate genital mutilation, or the involvement of interstate commerce, or an enabling treaty
the feds lack the power to pass the law in question

2018-11-23 18:44:57 UTC  

I still think the reasoning for interstate commerce is a bit strange.

2018-11-23 18:45:06 UTC  

Raich is a bit strange