Message from @paradigm

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2018-11-23 19:12:02 UTC  

DC is not a state

2018-11-23 19:12:04 UTC  

The FBI does not police people

2018-11-23 19:12:10 UTC  

military bases are not a state

2018-11-23 19:12:12 UTC  

They investigate federal crimes

2018-11-23 19:12:15 UTC  

yes

2018-11-23 19:12:16 UTC  

Define policing

2018-11-23 19:12:40 UTC  

If they investigate and take into custody suspected criminals for prosecution, how is that not policing?

2018-11-23 19:12:58 UTC  

federal crimes are enabled by specific authority
contained in the constitution (Interstate Commerce Clause, for the most part)
or in laws enabled by treaty

2018-11-23 19:13:47 UTC  

"taking into custody" is policing

2018-11-23 19:14:00 UTC  

and the feds do so in cases where they have jurisdiction

2018-11-23 19:14:40 UTC  

murder is a state crime, and does not grant federal jurisdiction

2018-11-23 19:18:31 UTC  

So ultimately there is federal authority to police, but it is limmitted

2018-11-23 19:20:28 UTC  

yes, of course

2018-11-23 19:20:56 UTC  

hence federal prisons holding millions of inmates

2018-11-23 19:21:09 UTC  

or hundreds of thousands, or whatever it is

2018-11-23 19:21:13 UTC  

Feds often work closesly with states either way anyway from what I understand

2018-11-23 19:21:18 UTC  

indeed

2018-11-23 19:21:20 UTC  

The federal government has the right to police their own laws. Remember the FBI was borne of the effort to enforce Prohibition.

2018-11-23 19:21:28 UTC  

Simmilar to how they might even work outside of the country

2018-11-23 19:21:46 UTC  

yes

2018-11-23 19:22:10 UTC  

although the feds have greater jurisdiction within the several states
than they do in foreign countries

2018-11-23 19:22:21 UTC  

yes

2018-11-23 19:22:29 UTC  

Prohibition was specifically a Federal Law - an amendment. A disaster of an amendment since it was the only one that specifically took away liberty rather then preserve it.

2018-11-23 19:22:40 UTC  

Hence why it needed to be policed

2018-11-23 19:22:54 UTC  

On the topic above, does anyone know why circumcission is even a standard still in the U.S.?

2018-11-23 19:23:20 UTC  

Gynocentrism.

2018-11-23 19:23:25 UTC  

People blame FDR for the rise in federal power but honestly I place that blame firmly on the massive apparatus it took to try to enforce prohibition.

2018-11-23 19:23:29 UTC  

^ dig into that one 😃

2018-11-23 19:23:40 UTC  

We just talked about this. The right of parents to mutilate their children is decided on a state by state basis.

2018-11-23 19:24:25 UTC  

Just like murder and rape.

2018-11-23 19:24:33 UTC  

provided no interstate commerce, yes @Bookworm
( and no federal legislation enacted pursuant to an enabling treaty to end genital mutilation )

2018-11-23 19:24:37 UTC  

hmm

2018-11-23 19:24:46 UTC  

Do parents always explicity choose or is it the standard to circumcise

2018-11-23 19:25:00 UTC  

Parents decide.

2018-11-23 19:25:09 UTC  

Why do parents choose to?

2018-11-23 19:25:10 UTC  

My understanding is that the parents decide. I'm not aware of any medical practice that circumcises by default.

2018-11-23 19:25:25 UTC  

Religious reasons would probably be the most likely one.

2018-11-23 19:25:56 UTC  

I thought Americans were mostly Christian though

2018-11-23 19:26:14 UTC  

Possible health concerns. I believe my cousin had some severe genital infection related to his foreskin.

2018-11-23 19:26:21 UTC  

There is a common myth in the US that it is healthier and cleaner to do so