Message from @EndangeredProdigy

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2018-11-25 00:35:19 UTC  

Trans sucks and surgery is last ditch. But for many people, it provided relief and contentment.

2018-11-25 00:35:20 UTC  

Try to encourage her.

2018-11-25 00:35:49 UTC  

Her friends that encouraged her to pick a their chosen path... you should tell them to fuck off.

2018-11-25 00:35:51 UTC  

and for others it gave them the push into the wrong direction to know they FUBAR'ed themselves and then kill themselves

2018-11-25 00:36:10 UTC  

well who the hell wouldn't kill themselves if they chopped off their dick?

2018-11-25 00:36:21 UTC  

And if your friend is already emotionally unstable, it probably isn't wise to make such a life altering decision at this point. Your friend needs to wait until they feel like they could handle something like that before they make such a drastic change

2018-11-25 00:36:30 UTC  

Its up to them to decide that after, before the point of no return all you can do is be honest to them and try to have them realise the point of no return is there

2018-11-25 00:36:45 UTC  

Wol, what I referred to was you comment about the will or paradox's comment about buying "her" a gun

2018-11-25 00:37:00 UTC  

I have a very bad feeling she thinks this surgery will change everything. I have a feeling won't. I have a feeling it will bring her a lot of pain.

2018-11-25 00:37:00 UTC  

humor is a coping mechanism 😦

2018-11-25 00:37:07 UTC  

Fair enough

2018-11-25 00:37:17 UTC  

What's wrong with buying them a gun? Are you saying that is somehow not appropriate? Why not?

2018-11-25 00:37:21 UTC  

I'm worried af

2018-11-25 00:37:25 UTC  

Surgery doesn't change everything

2018-11-25 00:37:28 UTC  

as you should be

2018-11-25 00:37:38 UTC  

Oh dear lord she needs to understand that

2018-11-25 00:37:38 UTC  

Here is a suggestion: ask her where she sees herself in 10 years, what her goals are,

2018-11-25 00:37:40 UTC  

22 is very young. I am very different from what I was at that age, and can't imagine making a decision like that so early in life

2018-11-25 00:37:45 UTC  

Surgery doesn't change anything... it is a massive decision that she can't return from.

2018-11-25 00:38:05 UTC  

I've tried to talk to her about it

2018-11-25 00:38:11 UTC  

If I still adhered to what I wanted when I was 22, I would NOT be happy with my life right now

2018-11-25 00:38:12 UTC  

It does change come things

2018-11-25 00:38:14 UTC  

She has her ears to the ground

2018-11-25 00:38:21 UTC  

Like I said

2018-11-25 00:38:24 UTC  

Most people who go through the surgery, tend to be even more depressed and committed society. Basically it is regret that even worse than gender dystopia.

2018-11-25 00:38:24 UTC  

I've given up

2018-11-25 00:38:30 UTC  

It's hard to articulate in words but it does

2018-11-25 00:38:33 UTC  

Whatever happens, happens.

2018-11-25 00:38:41 UTC  

But it's not a panacea

2018-11-25 00:38:42 UTC  

They thought it was the right decision because people encouraged them and told them that it is...

2018-11-25 00:38:46 UTC  

If she cant answer where she wants to be in 10 years and what her goals are

2018-11-25 00:38:49 UTC  

she shouldnt do this

2018-11-25 00:39:04 UTC  

Then they are left high and dry when they become depressed....

2018-11-25 00:39:21 UTC  

So, wait, are you saying that sugar doesn't cure cancer?

2018-11-25 00:39:22 UTC  

That then usually ends up in suicide.

2018-11-25 00:39:34 UTC  

I think she thinks it will help her accept herself

2018-11-25 00:39:44 UTC  

I don't think she accepts herself

2018-11-25 00:39:47 UTC  

Paradox, I interpreted your quip as an encouragement for a depressed person to suicide

2018-11-25 00:39:54 UTC  

You have 2 kinds of support,

The support that is honest (you) which will warn people about stupid things to protect them from it
And the support that tells them what they wanna hear, even if it means guiding them into total destruction

2018-11-25 00:39:55 UTC  

The thing is, it seems like your friend is very unsatisfied with their life and is making a lot of changes to search for something that will fix that unsatisfied feeling. I am afraid that doing something so permanent will only cause your friend to go farther into an emotional spiral, because it won't be what they are looking for.

2018-11-25 00:39:57 UTC  

The whole thing is fucked