Yes, if they want to demand being seen as adults. Absolutely.

I stand by that point 100%.

women and men should both act like adults

the difference is that men are punished if they don't

women are coddled

See Wol gets it

you apparently dont

😄

Undead

Okay l got a question for both sides

he might not have phrased it like i did, but i think he means it like i did

Should a woman leave a toxic relationship

not, he phrased it ike, "must act like adults'

Codes, THAT is the ultimate responsibility of men in society.

Don't tell me they are not being held to an adult standard.

According to undead @Black cat, its the woman's fault

so no

must act, as in they're expected to, and if they don't they're mocked,

If women however do it they're coddled and told its not their fault

as for you @Black cat , define "Toxic relationship"

When women fall on hard times, they are not left to die in the street. They can turn on the water works and they have an entire army of retarded simps like you come to their rescue.

I've been on twitter see 😄 Toxic relationship can range from "He beats me and penetrates me when he wants, even in the middle of the night, then lies about me and keeps me indoors" to "He wont buy me shoes, should i stop taking birth control? he's so toxic to my freedom to be a woman"

You really need to get that retarded simping behavior out of your system.

More on a side of arguements and generally horrible at times.

Either women are adults - then treat them as such - or they are children.

Make up your mind, Codes.

Wol, obviously that second is not a toxic relationship

Are women adults or children?

Women are people

Oh, but the woman was at the mercy of the man?

and we should hold EVERYone

I know that, you know that, but people still phrase it as one, hence i wanna know what parameters black cat sets for the question

including women, to same standard

Why do you blame the man for the relationship then?

also define "generally horrible at times", shouting? demeaning? or physical?

There were two people in the relationship.

Why was the woman the victim?

Did he tie her down?

Shouting and physical

Did he threaten her at gun point?

Did she not have a phone to dial 911?

According to undeaad @Black cat, its the womans fault

Stop your idiotic simping.

If your story makes no more sense when you swap the genders, you are not treating men and women equally.

even if he rapes her constantly

When I swap the genders in your story, it makes no sense. It turns into a complete cringe fest.

OH, so now she was raped?