the frenchie is right

you never mentioned the standard they upheld too

not abuse power

When they get someone pregnant, they can "man up" and shell out child support. When a woman gets pregnant, we get to pay for her vaginal turd with our taxes, she has Baby Moses Laws that allow her to drop it off in many cases, whenever she likes, and she has a few hundred ways to abdicate responsibility in situations that would literally land a man in jail.


So, yes, men are expected to be adults.

Men are supposed to "man up".

When was the last time you heard someone say a single mother should "woman up"?

"man up" si a bit patriarchal.
What about "*people* up"? or "*human* up"?

You know, i feel a recuring them with you

Codes, are you really trying to go down that road?

That men are boys path?

You said women, "must act like adults'

Not teh standard they are held too

which is it

Yes, if they want to demand being seen as adults. Absolutely.

I stand by that point 100%.

women and men should both act like adults

the difference is that men are punished if they don't

women are coddled

See Wol gets it

you apparently dont

😄

Undead

Okay l got a question for both sides

he might not have phrased it like i did, but i think he means it like i did

Should a woman leave a toxic relationship

not, he phrased it ike, "must act like adults'

Codes, THAT is the ultimate responsibility of men in society.

Don't tell me they are not being held to an adult standard.

According to undead @Black cat, its the woman's fault

so no

must act, as in they're expected to, and if they don't they're mocked,

If women however do it they're coddled and told its not their fault

as for you @Black cat , define "Toxic relationship"

When women fall on hard times, they are not left to die in the street. They can turn on the water works and they have an entire army of retarded simps like you come to their rescue.

I've been on twitter see 😄 Toxic relationship can range from "He beats me and penetrates me when he wants, even in the middle of the night, then lies about me and keeps me indoors" to "He wont buy me shoes, should i stop taking birth control? he's so toxic to my freedom to be a woman"

You really need to get that retarded simping behavior out of your system.

More on a side of arguements and generally horrible at times.

Either women are adults - then treat them as such - or they are children.

Make up your mind, Codes.

Wol, obviously that second is not a toxic relationship

Are women adults or children?

Women are people

Oh, but the woman was at the mercy of the man?

and we should hold EVERYone

I know that, you know that, but people still phrase it as one, hence i wanna know what parameters black cat sets for the question

including women, to same standard