Hillary however is a REEEE

People become ass holes for their own reasons and some become somewhat nice for reasons

Do I think that men are worthy of being called adults?

To act like an adult is to sacrifice yourself responsibly

Are we playing the man-children card now?

Are you going to tell me to man up now?

for your argument to matter, you must believe that men are worthy of being "called adults"

cause everyone is selfish

everyone is childish

Regardless of how individual men act, they are held to the standards of adults.

men, women, attack helicopters

its human nature

But that is different, than what you said before

remember kids
You are only a war criminal if you are on the loser side so:
You can make a war and genocide everyone, just make sure you win at the end! 😄

You said women, "must act like adults'

the frenchie is right

you never mentioned the standard they upheld too

not abuse power

When they get someone pregnant, they can "man up" and shell out child support. When a woman gets pregnant, we get to pay for her vaginal turd with our taxes, she has Baby Moses Laws that allow her to drop it off in many cases, whenever she likes, and she has a few hundred ways to abdicate responsibility in situations that would literally land a man in jail.


So, yes, men are expected to be adults.

Men are supposed to "man up".

When was the last time you heard someone say a single mother should "woman up"?

"man up" si a bit patriarchal.
What about "*people* up"? or "*human* up"?

You know, i feel a recuring them with you

Codes, are you really trying to go down that road?

That men are boys path?

You said women, "must act like adults'

Not teh standard they are held too

which is it

Yes, if they want to demand being seen as adults. Absolutely.

I stand by that point 100%.

women and men should both act like adults

the difference is that men are punished if they don't

women are coddled

See Wol gets it

you apparently dont

😄

Undead

Okay l got a question for both sides

he might not have phrased it like i did, but i think he means it like i did

Should a woman leave a toxic relationship

not, he phrased it ike, "must act like adults'

Codes, THAT is the ultimate responsibility of men in society.

Don't tell me they are not being held to an adult standard.

According to undead @Black cat, its the woman's fault