Cause I do not believe that ALL SINGLE MOTHERS are to blame

So you are comfortable with forcing women to have a baby for everytime they have sex, maybe using artificial insemination of it didnt work out naturaly?

sure most could be

@Cody

BUT NOT ALL

I mean, look at you: you fire back these responses in rapid succession, because who you assume on the other line of Discord is an adult male.

See how easy it is?

a child containing your DNA is your responsibility, If you didn't want that risk, you shouldn't have had sex. You can pass off that responsibility to someone else but if no one will take it, it is still stuck with you. You don't get to use the state to make me pay for a child containing YOUR dna just because you didn't like that your gamble didn't pay off.

But, we still have to spend $4 billion on single moms like yours.

Where are the $4 billion for men if women and men are adults?

Why do we constantly have to pay up for women's bad choices?

i didn't have sex, i didn't take the gamble.

Why can't we hold women responsible for their choices?

this applies to both parents

@Redneo You clearly missed the point, Sex=Reproduction, therefor you are consenting to the chance that you create offspring by fucking

maybe artificial insemanition youll say is different, if sex is consent to having a baby that is a distinction that doesnt matter. @Cody

they can argue over who takes full responsibility all fucking day, but if that child dies on the street, i'm charging both of you with murder.

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@Redneo condom breaks, she didn't consent to having a baby, you didn't either. So what, the baby gets dumbed on the street?

Idk if you guys have noticed, but I never once use the term Male or female individually

The decent thing you could do is give it away

In otherwords, I am talking about both

@Grenade123 it wont be born if thats not what she decides

So your for abortion then?

I give up.

There are about 12 million single mothers in the US, at any time. Almost everybody here will agree how bad that is.

But everyone swears up and down how THEIR single mother was the one exception, the one case where, despite all the hundreds of legal tools, it really, really wasn't her fault, but the man's.

Bullshit.

so she is forced to deal with AND pay for that procedure, when it was your protection that failed and your end of the contract that was breeched? @Redneo

@Undead Mockingbird my mom is no saint

I just respect that she took care of me

or do I, the tax payer, now have to pay for that?

My dad wouldnt of

@Grenade123 i never said anything about who pays for the procedure

@Redneo that is part of the responsibility

Codes, I realize that you can pay lip service to all of this.

That's the problem:

Both the left and right will pay lip service to all of this, but when the rubber meets the road, THEIR case is always the exception, the one that fell between the cracks.

you are deciding what is happening with this thing you have created.

Oh that person is paying with what he can give

Man up!

Men just have to step up and shut up!

until that responsibility has been handed off somehow to someone who will take it, it is in the hands of the people who decided to have sex

its a responsibility seperate to whos responsible for the child should she decide to have it

More shelters!

More DV programs!