but if there was not @knightlyjug

we're talking about honest cases

So say the condom broke etc, or he consented without protection

oh

@knightlyjug not what we are arguing about. Why does it matter if he IS the father? It was her unilateral decission. Birth control, morning after pill, abortion, adoption. Why should he be responsible for her choices?

he should not

hence the (no foul play) part, he wasn't decieved, or holes poked into the condom, or lied about birthcontrol etc

Okay. We are all in agreement.

we're all in agreement that deception clears him of all responsibility i think

Let's not muddy the waters with more hypotheticals.

I feel like the over-representation of feminism now is like... BRACING FOR IMPACT of what the reality is going to be.

you guys are talking about this shit while i just found out my sister got drugged and raped on monday .

Of so many spinsters who **will not** be getting a man in their lives.

ouch

And they need a constant stream of lies.

Yeah . . apparently the suspect went to highschool with me and my sister

So to prepare for reality, they're believing lies.

sorry to hear that @Walsp

Double check that she wasn't just cheating on her boyfriend.

she doesnt have a boyfriend

Always blaming the victim

she came out of a abusive relationship was single for 3 years now

and the guy she met spiked her drink

the drugs wore of on Thursday

Just double check with the facts before you go lynching someone.

she was hopped on that coctail for 4 days

he's from south africa Mockingbird, not the west

stuff is a lot more sinister over there

Yes, and part of why that is is that they skip due process in parts of Africa.

she woke up at her resident after passing out at the restaurant the only person who took her there was this dude all witnesses didnt like the look of him

yes but feminism isn't really a thing there,

hell people believe in magical cock-thieves

She turned him down repeatetedly

Did she go to the police right away?

when the drugs wore off on thursday

she phone my parents

they told her to file a police report emediatle

Did she file a police report?

yeah

Okay.

cops will arrest the guy shortly

So we know who the dude was the day she turned him down same day she got drugged

He persisted