I was just reading that convo Alice. If you have first aid training as a civvy, do you not need to help? In Australia you have to otherwise you can be charged. If you're trained in nfitst aid here then by law you must be ***the*** first aid

Some states have it as a misdemeanor if you don't call 911 at least but I don't think that's really enforcable

Over here, even if you're just trained in cpr, you have to be the first responder and hang about until paramedics arrive

Yeah, that kind of infringes on the constitution because you have a right to well... Not do or say anything

So Australia is minutely closer to being a fascist nation? That's fucken sick

Yes

Requiring someone to administer first aid

is fascism

See, I don't believe you should have a right to do anything that isn't good for the society, including leaving a body or someone fucked up laying about

Mostly it deals with court cases, you have a right to not testify and to remain silent but it applies to that as well

Generally

Yuck

The court one I get

But being allowed to be negligent is gross imo

What would even be the punishment for not doing that?

I think it's a fine

Unless the person dies due to your negligence maybe. I'm not too sure

If I were leader they'd have a day in the pillory

Because I would bring back the pillory

Eh, I don't know. I think that kind of negligence is gross, as is apathy, but that's just something I don't think is the state's duty to uphold

The states duty is to enforce the ideals that lead to a functioning and happy society

The current state us bullshit and basically uncaring

The state can be a wonderful thing

I think it should encourage things like this, state ran youth programs that instill virtuous ideals into youth that manifest into the people becoming better for example

GG @Issa Dornan, you just advanced to level 2!

But we don't have strong leaders

And people who don't do these things should be shunned by the community

That's a good idea

Shunning is punishment

The pilorry is basically forced shunning

A day or so in the brig can be forgotten, shame is a lot harder to forget

Do you know what a pillory is?

I imagined it was like a jail but I guess i'm wrong

Take away the walls and put it in a town square

Eh

I dunno

I like the shame but that's a bit too medieval

How would you shame them?

Let the community shame them, like I said that's something I just feel isn't the state's responsibility to do

I think you have too much faith in the community