Message from @Grenade123
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Redpill me on NatSoc Sanders
argued against mass migration
thas good
against free trade
he supports nationalist policy
and even refused to say abolish ice
and hes a socialist
are they after him now?
A Jewish national socialist?
Oh boy, Twitter will have a lot to say about this
again..
i never said nazi
just national socialist
That's what Nazi is though
if he was german he would be a nazi
well no
well, whenever you say national socialism, people automatically think of nazis
closer to italian fascism
mussolini didn't care about ethnicity at all
That's because Nazi is short for National Socialism. You're looking for Fascism yes
but don't they conflate the two?
he just cared about primacy of the state in all affairs
nationalist has become a bad word
you naughty naughty nationalist you
@Grenade123 the "nazis" where orginally just against marxism... or... thats what they wanted us to believe (according to ... media)
No wonder the left shot bernie's chances of being prez and probably will keep him from running agian.
socialism isn't Marxism so whats your point?
technically Marxism is anti-state
was marx a socialist?
but good luck removing power from the state once you get through the Socialism part of his plan.
he would be a terrible prez
For a extremely detailed explanation of what the National Socialist German Worker's Party actually believed and implemented as policy, I'd recommend reading/listening to this audiobook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2C90l7YlT8
@Aghost he believed socialism was the next of evolution of society followed by true communism, which is stateless.
technically the only communist countries on earth are socialist ones run by communist parties who don't want to give up power.
making them not really communist
i hate that they conflate Nietzsche with Nazis -- it was his fucking sister
@Coochie coo explaining the many differences in beliefs between the two is the main point of the book.
@Grenade123 ok
well the nazis where anti communism, anti stateless society, anti marxism, anti all that shit
because they where ethnic nationalists, they believed people are connected to their territory (just like... other territorial animals)
so the critique of ... well that wasnt marxism... or that wasnt socialism, doesnt really matter to me (its like a detail)
oh do they? @Atkins
and your point?