Same here. Permanent residents are very close to full citizens legally.

I know a couple who've been in the country for decades and are just waiting on the clock for full citizenship.

Paying taxes and everything else.

Then those people should be given the option.

They are going through legal means.

I am okay with that

how did they enter tho?

They entered legally.

ah ok, thats... better than entering illegally

1 out of the 4 non-citizens should be given the right for benefits and SSI, because they actually came here legally and are contributing.

The others should be denied access to it.

I am not cold hearted, I am willing to compromise on issues if it reasonable.

Now, if you want to start a flame war, the article indicates the usual mechanism by which welfare benefits for people who wouldn't otherwise qualify are received is via native-born children.

That's tying very closely with the "children aren't citizens" declaration right before the midterms.

But we should keep terms straight.

So anchor babies?

The problem is that there's been this stigmatism against immigrants to the point that even Legal ones are looked down on to a degree or assumed to be illegal.... personally I want the border to become so damn secure that anyone who claims to be an immigrant is welcomed by a community rather than ostracized for supposed illegality

Instead of citizenship, anchor babies should get the guillotine

I really hate that it is allowed, it puts the mother and child in danger.

Anchor babies usually implies that he parents go back to the home country, but yes @Dusty Morgan

Anchor babies is using children as human shields

No the term means... the parents are protected from deportation aka anchor word because they had a baby here in united states.

holy crap... I actually finally managed to get this ubuntu setup on a secure boot laptop (keeping secureboot on) with the wireless drivers finally working and even left the windows recovery partitions working

hp made it hell to get this laptop working under linux

@Eirene See, that's the idea. Legal immigrants should be welcomed.

@Misomania How so?

I think we should add a legislation specifically to close the loophole.

@pratel the network card somehow defaults to using the bluetooth antenna for the wifi because of a shit driver, which broke the wifi until I learned to manually force it to use the actual wifi antenna

That's weird. And entirely what I'd expect to happen with Linux somehow.

For a child born here to be considered a citizen to foreign parent, certain requirements are must be met.

I remember emergency buying an ethernet cable to get a wifi driver downloaded once.

that they have the hard drive soldered to the board, and requiring me to pull open the entire laptop right down to taking the keyboard off is also BS. And they had 6 different partitions on the drive, with multiple recovery and hibernation partitions

Foreign parents must be in process of legalization for citizenship and/or one parent or more must be native to United States.

so I couldn't just swap to a clean drive to install linux, and their partitions were a mess

But "some people" believe America is bad.... they believe anyone should be allowed in.... they believe we should take care of the poor and destitute.... and while I agree to this in an extent... this morality only works on small scale... when done large scale it creates a group of people who are taught to abuse the system to survive.... "Symbiotic parasites to the political party that feeds them"

You had to open the whole thing up? That's extreme.

I aguhree with that

no, I managed to shift around a few partitions and got lucky in that the recovery software still works

I am trying to create a specific way to describe it that makes it understandable and reasonable.

And keep people from abusing birthright citizenship.

I don't want to get rid of it though.