Message from @Bayesed
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@Beemann alright. Predict the path of individual water molecules in a wave.
Well, I'm sorry, it is a bit difficult to provide measurable objects that provide evidence for a non-physical entity without introducing logical proofs.
Why would consciousness be evidence for god?
This is why we have philosophy.
If we as conscious beings envision a divine being connecting us together then it becomes an issue of belief rather than evidence.
@Bayesed why does it not
existence, consciousness, therefore god? it seems a bit of a leap
Im not saying youre wrong for belief in god. I am asking for your justification of your beliefs. convince me with evidence
Is your definition of evidence the same as Bees?
@Bayesed you literally just did earlier
no
Beliefs, by their nature, don't require justification or evidence
otherwise they'd be fact, not beleif
i said your 100% certainty was unfounded
What? All beliefs are rooted in some kind of justification.
@Bookworm is this where we get back into presupposition? Because I'm really tired of that one
The human mind holds no facts, only beliefs. Facts are external realities.
@Bayesed wrong. You did when you talked about vaccines.
just as an offhand comment
belief in the demons etc? yes
the Anti-Anti Vaxxers are int he camp of the Anti-Flat earth folks
I hear more from them than I do the actual Anti Vaxxers.
So, you will say people who believe in demons are wrong, but not God?
@Salacious Swanky Cat sorry? I have to personally mathematically run through the proofs for everything despite them being applicable in predictive models?
What's the critical separation?
im also not 100% certain that demons etc dont exist. but i have not seen supporting evidence so i assign it a very low probability near 0
that is bayesian probability
I think I understand why you think that this road leads to strawmen, fam
if you think that existence and consciousness are evidence of god
why not evidence of the simulation hypothesis? and we are a computer program etc?
@Beemann there isn’t a proven predictive model for individual molecules. Large amount of molecules.
My head
Hurts
From watching this guy explain this
That's because its magic
duh
Okay, so what does this disprove? We have predictive models that include large amounts of molecules and also we have predictive models that account for individual molecules
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if it makes your head hurt it's probably not explained very well