Message from @Gilgamesh

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2018-12-09 10:18:25 UTC  

but there are still concrete issues that SJWs can't sway us from

2018-12-09 10:18:41 UTC  

you can't use SJWs to sway a leftist from wanting more social programs and taxing the rich

2018-12-09 10:19:22 UTC  

if anything, a good percent of the Walkaway movement will transform Republicans into a new centrist class, with the left being the odd one out

2018-12-09 10:19:35 UTC  

this will then force the left to change, or there will be civil war

2018-12-09 10:19:56 UTC  

so far, the left seems to love pretending like their vast majority 0.1 percent is a majority

2018-12-09 10:20:03 UTC  

vast minority*

2018-12-09 10:20:04 UTC  

sorry

2018-12-09 10:20:27 UTC  

point is, they are driving each other to eat each other alive, and it seems like they don't know what is going on

2018-12-09 10:22:00 UTC  

a conspiracy theorist might say "we said this was happening all along. both parties have always been controlled by one group."

2018-12-09 10:22:35 UTC  

"if one party suddenly goes haywire for no clear reason, it's likely due to an agenda and an obvious end-result once one looks for it"

2018-12-09 10:22:52 UTC  

ironically, Trump has been making peace with the world

2018-12-09 10:23:02 UTC  

ironically, the right has been against globalism

2018-12-09 10:23:18 UTC  

Trump is closer to globalism by simply making peace

2018-12-09 10:23:37 UTC  

the left used to be the anti-war party

2018-12-09 10:23:44 UTC  

now they seem to want war with Russia

2018-12-09 10:23:58 UTC  

humans are fickle, feeble-minded animals

2018-12-09 10:24:14 UTC  

however, they are only that way once they've been made to be so

2018-12-09 10:24:17 UTC  

through manipulation

2018-12-09 10:24:24 UTC  

media brainwashing

2018-12-09 10:24:31 UTC  

forcing people into tribalist camps

2018-12-09 10:24:41 UTC  

it's all very sick and sad

I'm not as opposed to immigration itself as I am to letting hostile cultures/people in the country

2018-12-09 11:06:17 UTC  

i'd say the amount of right-leaning people here is simply because they have simple reasoning on their side, so the worst that can happen is that they have a stale-mate in a discussion,

That and Tim has often said its right-wingers who are always like "hey dude, lets sit down and talk"

2018-12-09 11:07:22 UTC  

the issue between left/right about social programs/taxing the rich

Is not that the right hates poor people,
Its that the right believes people who have worked for their money should be the one who decides to get to spend it

2018-12-09 11:07:57 UTC  

the right is all for social programs and taxes, for those that WANT to follow it,
Those that say "I have this money, and i decide i wanna give it back to other people"

2018-12-09 11:10:30 UTC  

And to say "You should be nice" is admirable, but its not how right-wingers do things

From my observation:
The left thinks in goals that have no finish line (Be nice, help others, end racism, progress society, progress humanity)
And the right thinks in systems that would work if everyone plays fairly (free market, self-determination)

2018-12-09 11:11:12 UTC  

so essentially, its "no plan" vs "no soul" 😄

2018-12-09 11:16:16 UTC  

Why do people shit on decent and even handed reporters

2018-12-09 11:16:25 UTC  

Problem with the Left right now is the Collectivism, oppression of thought and their outright racism without understanding what the fuck they are doing or history.

2018-12-09 11:16:50 UTC  

Left and Right are dumb distinctions that are too broad to have any real meaning

2018-12-09 11:17:01 UTC  

Yeah absolutely

2018-12-09 11:17:09 UTC  

A libertarian and a neo-con are both considered RIGHT
that makes no sense

2018-12-09 11:17:26 UTC  

^

2018-12-09 11:18:47 UTC  

True and its basically saying: Overthrow the Gouvernment and don't overthrow them.

2018-12-09 11:19:38 UTC  

thats if you only go by 1 axis

2018-12-09 11:20:04 UTC  

Libertarians want no wars, less government and more trade,

Neo-cons want world police, more government (For your safety) and more trade

2018-12-09 11:27:55 UTC  

...and then there are the ones like Ben Shapiro who say they're right wing and want more wars for Israel

2018-12-09 11:31:27 UTC  

And sometimes you have to intervene....

2018-12-09 11:31:43 UTC  

Venezuela is one of the messes that should have been dealt with by the UN/NATO

2018-12-09 11:34:56 UTC  

Shapiro is a neo-con

2018-12-09 11:35:35 UTC  

o no

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