Message from @Brant
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quotes don't twist reality
so a Monarchy is technically the most Libertarian form of govt
for the monarch, sure 😛
sounds like you dont understand that there are multiple forms of Monarchy and only accept a single and outdated (by about 400 years) concept of direct rule (whether framed in the terms divine or outright naked force)
Right, except monarchical philosophies of governance do not recognize the will of the governed as the source of their authority.
Rather, the authority of government flows *from* them.
as is appropriate
explains why they cut off the heads of the authority they were displeased with
And, usually, they receive that authority from some divine entity, or are themselves claimed to be divine.
Our current elite hate Populism as well
Well, wasn't him. Was his grandson.
the authority of the government is granted by the people,
If the people think the government should be replaced, they'll either vote it out, or force it out
The issue I see with an elected head of state, or appointed, is that any issue that causes an elected govt to fail would also be a factor on the authority of the head of state .. I.E. the head of state would be a partisan position and authority. With a constitutional monarchy where parliament is the highest authority where it stays within the constitution you avoid that.
Discontent and rebellion is not authority, merely force.
Force does not bestow legitimacy.
and what do people vote for?
immediate gratification
that's what
the bolsheviks disagree
there is no long term vision in a democratic govt
the wh..oh, right.. the ones who ruled for a few months before Lenin and Stalin got rid of them ? ;P
rebellion is taking your support away to the point where you give your support to a new faction
And through the might of the revolutionaries, the sovereignty of the new faction is made to claim the previous rulers
there is that problem with democracy, @AdorableStormtrooper
Force very much does bestow legitimacy
a Democratic Govt rather import millions of foreigners from an incompatible culture to pay for pensions rather than privatize the pension system
but that is largely one driven by poorly informed electorate.
because who cares, I'm out after 8 years, the problems migrants will create is for someone else to deal with
our pension system is mixed, you get a public pension but most people rely on a private scheme , either one they have setup or one the company the work for has setup.
doesn't happen in monarchy, all the problems are for the Monarch to deal with in the future, he ain't got nowhere to run
So, the mightiest has the right to rule by the nature of his might? How bleak.
it is bleak
fuck up the country, end up with your Royal Head on a Stick, in Democracy, nothing ever happens to them
but its how nature is
Merkel is going to be fine
The strongest survive,
The only way to avoid being dethroned, is by being benevolent, so that the moment your power starts declining, people wont try to take over
Or destroy everyone so theres no one left to dethrone you
or pass on your authority to the next
```So, the mightiest has the right to rule by the nature of his might? How bleak.```
it is inevitable, and we should welcome that because the alternative (which is status quo) isn't sustainable
The moment an Alpha gorilla isn't at his peak,
the two 2nd strongest will team up and get rid of him, and establish their own rule (or fight it out)
nah, the way to keep power is to keep the interests underneath you happy, the barons, the aristocracy, in turn the aristocracy must keep their subjects happy
yes
there's a clear sense of hierarchy which isn't based on how much wealth you have