Message from @AdorableStormtrooper

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2018-12-09 14:02:40 UTC  

we have replaced that hierarchy with a mercantile elite

2018-12-09 14:02:47 UTC  

and i don't think it's served us well

2018-12-09 14:02:47 UTC  
2018-12-09 14:02:50 UTC  

If the people like you and the benefits you give them, they'll keep you around cuz they trust you'll give them more

2018-12-09 14:04:00 UTC  

She's the kind of person who thinks banning the Muslim religion and holidays is sacrilege/discrimination but is totally fine with banning and discriminating against anything to do with Christianity. So much for tolerance.

2018-12-09 14:04:07 UTC  

By that metric, you cannot complain about anything those in power do. They have the right to do it by dint of their power to do so.

2018-12-09 14:04:26 UTC  

yes, if you can't stop them you can't do anything about it

2018-12-09 14:04:50 UTC  

Btw, I'm not religious, but I am open minded about religion.

2018-12-09 14:04:53 UTC  

this is why Americans care so much for their 2nd amendment

2018-12-09 14:04:57 UTC  

So, Angela Merkel's immigration policy and destruction of European countries is morally legitimate and right, because she could.

2018-12-09 14:05:07 UTC  

morally? no

2018-12-09 14:05:18 UTC  

legitimate by the sovereignty her own country gives her, yes

2018-12-09 14:05:26 UTC  

So, then, you wouldn't say that legitimacy derives from power.

2018-12-09 14:05:42 UTC  

I absolutely say that,

Ultimately it IS a power game

2018-12-09 14:05:50 UTC  

Merkel isn't a legitimate ruler

2018-12-09 14:05:55 UTC  

in my book

2018-12-09 14:06:18 UTC  

Of course not, she is not of the house of Hohenzollern.

2018-12-09 14:06:20 UTC  

but smart rulers figured out long ago that oppression doesn't last very long,

Its better to try and do right by the people and have them be better off, so they'll love you and wanna keep you in power so you can give them MORE

2018-12-09 14:06:41 UTC  

***CRAZY CATHY ALERT***

2018-12-09 14:06:44 UTC  

and Merkel is a legitimate ruler,

the german cucks should however rise up and protest

2018-12-09 14:06:49 UTC  

oh yeah, Tyrannical Rulers get torn apart by their subordinates within the House

2018-12-09 14:06:51 UTC  

Legitimate ruler = leader of the party elected to form a govt in the UK. Period. 😉

2018-12-09 14:07:04 UTC  

Are we talking about Germany?

2018-12-09 14:07:20 UTC  

Queen Elizabeth is an illegitimate ruler?

2018-12-09 14:07:25 UTC  

unless they tampered the votes and Merkel didn't win the coalition, then Merkel is in fact not legitimate 😄

2018-12-09 14:07:28 UTC  

She's an elected Democratic Leader in a System born out of Regicide

2018-12-09 14:07:38 UTC  

It is an illegitimate system that put her there

2018-12-09 14:08:10 UTC  

Since i'm anti-monarchic, i don't consider any royal family to be legitimate rulers, unless they became king by rite of conquest

2018-12-09 14:08:19 UTC  

```Queen Elizabeth is an illegitimate ruler?```

If she had actual power, yeah

2018-12-09 14:08:41 UTC  

she's head of state. she doesnt actually rule ;P

2018-12-09 14:08:42 UTC  

but most "western" monarchs are symbolic, most wrote away any real government power

2018-12-09 14:08:47 UTC  

The English monarchy has been illegitimate since the time of Cromwell

2018-12-09 14:08:48 UTC  

yup

2018-12-09 14:09:28 UTC  

Hmm? Ah, because they were reinstated by the people?

2018-12-09 14:09:29 UTC  

um, British, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, and a few other countries, not just "england" (england being a country that hasnt been an independant political entity since the early 1600s)

2018-12-09 14:09:42 UTC  

I find monarchs in the west disgusting,

They get a royal salary
They're allowed to gain interest,
AND all their expenses are paid for by the government (aka the taxpayers)

So the monarchy is making money, and spending none

2018-12-09 14:10:23 UTC  

I agree, monarchs need to retake control of their national governments. The current structure renders them little more than bloated ticks.

2018-12-09 14:10:24 UTC  

actually after the pact signed by george III they technically lose money

2018-12-09 14:10:33 UTC  

expenses incurred whilst on public duty, or staying in publically owned residences

2018-12-09 14:10:34 UTC  

good

2018-12-09 14:10:37 UTC  

the dutch one is making bank