@Bodark Actual I agree with you to a certain extent. You have to yourself be grounded before you can take on anything else. But sometimes that's where a partners support, validation and encouragement can help.

It's on you to become grounded, and tbh, if you're going to be an effective and strong man it's your job to create that for yourself and develop your confidence that way, yeah, having a supportive partner helps, but if you're going to be outcome independent then you can't let that define your ability to do that.

As men the greatest source of support you'll have for yourself is yourself, and the brothers you choose to surround you.

Your wife will default to seeking you for support, and you cannot lead her in a way that generates respect and trust if you're leaning on her to define your ability to stand on your own.

Ty for the advice everyone. I appreciate it

Np bud

@Bodark Actual its apparent that we have opposing viewpoints on relationship roles. That is absolutely okay with me I respect your viewpoints and you're entitled to them. I think that this was a productive conversation for @Scr0m and I hope that everything goes well for him. Glad we could help.

No worries fam, I have a pretty traditional view on how relationships work, always good to have two sides of things

@Bodark Actual absolutely!

My wife is on the trad train too and it works great for us

Which is, ultimately, my priority

my search for another woman has been tabled

it has cost me my emotional outlet, but has given me new strength to overcome my circumstances and become better

when I was in a relationship and everything was perfect, I lost motivation and got lazy about self care

@Bodark Actual and you two need to do whats best for you and what works for you!

@Bard good, working on making yourself a better man is the most rewarding pursuit

@Bard well I think its great you're working on yourself, and just know that you have everyone here in the discord rooting for you and as an outlet!

Got friendzone

For

Nothing

Thats what happened

>me in school
>see gal
>she says "hey, wanna talk to u. Meet me at *PLACE REDACTED* "
>(good vibes)
>think things are working out
>10 min later she comes
>heart bumping
>"its been a while, want to tell something"
>me: what
>"it was very sweet of you when you gave me gifts in valentines day, but im already in love with other guy, we can be friends tho"

Sorry to hear that dude.

We can be friends is fake news, cut her loose. Don't fawn over a woman who isnt into you.

Exactly

You can be my boog boi valentine instead

Fuck em

UWU

Still

Got kicked on the balls out of nothing

Its frustrating

I'll never understand modern women

No offense to all gals in this server, just my humble opinion

Woman can be difficult sometimes but when you find the right one you will both know and it will be glorious

My mother got sexually abused today

How is she holding up man

She managed to get around

I mean

Im more pissed off than her

what the fuck happened?

Thr fucking bank's security guard tried to harass her