It only brings more war and death.

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flip side to american and british behaviour, once you surrender we'll bust balls to help you and feed you afterwards

Let grudges go and try to form new relationships.

both the berlin airlift and the massive amounts of food flown into japan immediately after the surrender

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And those people were seriously fucked

I honestly think there would be more casualties for Japan and United States if the bombs were not dropped.

Italy wasn’t as hard, but it was something

The war would go on for a long time...

Many lives lost.

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Civilians deaths.

Towns raized.

indeed. japan was down to 1500 cals per person by the time the nukes were dropped. there would have been starvation that winter had japan not surrendered

So the bombs were kind of a blessing in disguise for both nations.

Ending the war short from letting it drag on.

@Dusty Morgan there wasnt going to be an invasion

Allied policy was blockade and bomb

the dropping of the bombs also changed politics afterwards, wars like WW2 are a thing of the past because the next big shabang has the threat of even larger damage

Stalin’s was go the fuck forward

Exactly... bombs, death... civilians deaths, cities destroyed.

soviet advance on japan might have pushed an invasion. but iwth no external source like that they would have firebombed and starved japan into surrender

So yeah we probably would have lost Japan to communism

the two nuclear devices were used within that mindset, that the policy was blockade and bomb the japanese until the survivors sued for unconditional peace

timings were deliberate to give t he impression the US had a huge stock of nuclear devices

I heard Japanese tell me.... from perspective, dropping the bombs were actually a great thing. Because the Japanese wouldn't stop and there would been tons of deaths. United States would have to wipe them all out, every last one of them before the United States could declare victory.

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Well I think you have to assume Okinawa, people thought the Americans were complete monsters. And we showed it by the bombings.

consequences of no nukes, would have been horrific. mass starvation, their cities then towns being burned to the ground

Almost all their cities would be destroyed, millions of civilians dead, hundreds of thousands of dead Japanese soldiers, and Japan would burn from the Naplhim campaigns.

depending on h ow stubborn they were, complete collapse of Japan and the Japanese civilisation

United States wouldn't come out of that without their scars too.

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They would have been too weak to face Nazi Germany.

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as horrific as the nuclear devices were, and make no mistake they were horrific, along with the fire bombings, had they not been used and had the japanese not surrendered, the resulting casaulties would have been utterly horrific beyond our imagination

In all honesty, I think the world wouldn't have recover if United States were weakened.

Think about it, only reason we probably bounced back was because United States was rather intact.