Message from @GoldenPhoenix
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Let's see if we can agree on this
too
If someone has malicious intent to hurt people and yells fire in a crowded theatre, should they be punished?
nope
what?
I think that if your actions cause physical harm to another person, whether your actions were physical or verbal, you deserve punishment. I'm a consequentialist
because yelling fire doesn't hurt people
Ok, well, that is stupid.
it's speech
the people being morons and panicing and trampling eachother is what hurts people, they should be punished for being too dumb
The action of yelling fire is causing the actions of panic which is causing harm...
and...them trampling eachother is that punishment
that's like saying dropping a crate on someone to kill them doesn't hurt people
it's the gravity
You guys see the vids of the transformer explosion in NYC
Officer, ***I*** didn't murder the lady, physics did. All i did was pull the trigger.
Blame newton for figuring out that for every reaction there is an equal and oppsite raction.
your assumption is that people MUST panic when someone yells fire.
I disagree.
some
if someone yells fire, the implication is that there is a direct threat to human life, because there is a fire
yes, and some people eat their own poop, i don't think laws should be designed around the exceptions
this causes a fight/flight response
People do panic if someone yells fire
that's not an exception
Ok, so what if a person purposefully intends to cause a panic to hurt people, they do it by yelling fire in a crowded threatre, should they be punished?
i already said no
My god
Well, I got even more specific
hiniku that's a bad argument, because categorically that's a slippery slope towards "what if someone wants to harm people so they hurt someone's feelings"
if someone intends to kill me by talking me to death, i also don't think they should be arrested on attempted murder charges.
hurting someone's feelings isn't the same as intending to kill / harm them
is that a powerplat malfunctioning?
on a physical level
Wait what? @GoldenPhoenix
Can I get an example
I hear Tim likes One Punch Man
i didn't say hurt my feelings.