I hate that too

Agreed, I believe the old testament is largely metaphorical and not a science collection of books, and barely a collection of history.

the principles behind christianity is good but how they do it is terrible

The bible was totally tampered with I don't believe for a second it was perfectly preserved

Yes and that is my Criticism of Dawkins and Harris: They didn't try to improve it.

the principles that have survived are good

they just tore it down

Doubt you could do it better.

they have to get new PR and HR department to get me back into christianity

and then the people were left with a hole in their heart.

No. It's confirmation bias.


And can you explain away the fact Austraila's the only place where you will find kangaroos, koalas...and the only place you will find their fossils? No. @Salacious Swanky Cat

I will meet you in the middle Stefan and say they didn't try and replace it

Well, ignoring the fact that it was written is aramaic originally, neither of those are from the orient, despite any similarities. Calling it oriental because it uses metaphors is a stretch.

But am I the only one bothered when people say "You can only understand the quran in its arabic form"

As if arabic is somehow special

which i agree, is the general problem with a lot of things

And translation doesn't exist

like the republicans attempt to "repeal and replace"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9ocbvMUF-M DId anyone see this?

Yeah, because they try to weasel their way out of that shit @🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

The YE-Creationist interpretation does not hold up when compared to what we have.

@LittleGiantJ I’m saying that they don’t agree with the fossil record. Not the process of evolution. That’s all I’m saying.

It's a complete argument GetOutOfJailFreeCard and they know it

@🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞 the only problem with translations is that the more you translate it, the farther you get from the original intent. That's one reason the bible is in no way preserved from the original writing

and why the greek and hebrew translations are considered better than english

@GoldenPhoenix you don’t understand how it gets translated. Lol

i think any book is most understood in its original writing ... when it is translated it will lose some of its original meaning no matter how hard you try to keep the meaning of it cus the translation is subjektive

But a lot of that problem can be circumvented with annotations

some words and phrases to not translate well

@Grenade123 i agree

also, depending on who does the translating, culture phrases and context are sometimes lost

which can lead to baby its cold outside becoming a song about date rape

"how it gets translated" is irrelevant. changing languages always introduces inconsistencies

I don’t think any of y’all actually understand how Christians even interpret the Bible. Lol

which christian

I am a christian

are all christians the same?

i tried translating a book and when i was reading after myself a month later i found out that some of the original meaning was lost and i couldnt find a way to get it there

I believe that there is a creator but do not claim to know how creation happened, I do believe that in science it is valuable to use what you know works in the equations even if you don't think that what got you there is pure truth

@Paradox no

i identify as christian but i dont support the way it is done