Message from @Blackhawk342
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Many people who talk about "free" things genuinely do not realize that free means that someone else had to pay for it.
Up here people were more than willing to vote for higher taxes on themselves to help people and my county voted for obama in 2012
```Many people who talk about "free" things genuinely do not realize that free means that someone else had to pay for it.```
never forget this
If you are willing to be generous, then what prevents you from it?
Its not manipulation for them at least. They do genuinely think that what they're doing is right.
If I want to help people, I'll donate to charity
I doubt the government will refuse a free paycheck of millions
The reason the world is turning left is because the left use underhanded tactics, bribery, smearing their opponents, silencing the opposing political pundits, and finally attacking their finances.
If there was a general eagerness for charity, why would one need to go through the detour of the state?
if you want to donate money cuz you wanna help others, they'll happily take it
The far left play dirty.
so does the right
people fling mud
humans gonna human
The only reason why one would need to be "generous" through taxes is because some people do NOT want to be part of those donations, which means that you are generous with other people's money - which is not really generosity at all.
Once they get into power, they just remove any roadblocks for them to become dictators for life.
If there was a general eagerness to give to other people, one would not need the state as intermediate.
If you want to be generous, why not be generous with your own money?
until they get removed again
No idea
I can ask them about it
theyll probably say something about the limited reach of charities or not wanting to put the time in to find good charities
then that makes them lazy
and assholes
cuz lets face it,
The government is a shitty alternative to charity if you want money to go to people
generally government wastes money
So we pay taxes in order for us not to have to research charities?
That is an economic theory that had been previously completely unknown to me. Bravo.
Taxes means that you re-distribute wealth.
thats called socialism innit?
I don't believe in forcing people to help others
That redistribution is always by force and always involves the money of others, so any charity that you would have wanted to engage in becomes immoral, simply for reason that coercion.
you can't force charity
it stops being charity and just is force
Agreed.
If I hit you over the head and give your fur coat to a beggar, that is not charity.
I can't not see that in cartoon form
How about this?
Wait, they misspelled "charity".
Lmao
lol
Socialism is a great idea.
Until you run out of other people's money.
guys- sorry to break up the chat