Message from @Stefan Payne
Discord ID: 531042274818129920
sweet dreams
popular vote vs EC .. thats no problem, you just standardise all federal elections so everyone has the same rules. Oh, and if you're not in a major city, why should you as the minority have a say anyway? ;P
*suspects the most common european response to US EC and one of the reasons why the EC was setup to begin with*
They are like... It works fine here in European Union, why not implement it in United States.
Yeah... it works fine. Mass Migration against population wishes, bullying the smaller states, constantly undermining sovereignty of the states within the European Union, and making it impossible for UK to gain their freedom from the EU.
Also look at the collapse of France and Germany.
Yeah... it works wonders!
@Brant You signed this yet?https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963
EU isnt Europe as such
no, @Poppy Rider
Nearly at 300,000.#
I voted leave over sovereignty concerns, but I dont want to leave the EU in such a manner. I'm ok with a transition period, guarenteeing EU citizen right to remain and work in the UK and fulfilling UK obligations and commitments we signed up to prior to the referendum
lol why did tim leave the server?
That is what I asked...
😦
UK just drops out and ignores previous obligations why should any country believe our word after that?
In a perfect world yes. But we are being sold down the river. They had their chance to do it properly but choose this.
we ? you're a fellow Brit I assume
Yeah
btw I vote and am a member of the lib dems (because other than EU and firearm laws most of my views are close to lib dem views)
a disorderly drop out from the EU concerns the crap out of me tbh
project fear maybe but common sense and logic does support their view points ;P
It's better than the plan May has written up for us.
tbh in my view its remain, mays plan or drop out disastriously no deal
given those choices I'd vote remain
Tim didn’t leave, his discord is in offline mode, you can still @ him lol
Before the referendum I felt it was too late, we were already too tightly wound up in EU from a economic and political POV and was going to vote remain despite that I strongly disagree with UK membership and dislike/distrust the EU more than I dislike and distrust our govt. But, at the voting booth changed my mind for an emotional reason
I'm glad you made the right choice in the end.
the EU is leaning on the UK to function, while the UK has many options for trading partners. Further, it's not like the UK is calling the shots. So what's the sense in staying?
well, 2 years of "negotiating" was a complete waste of time. EU red lines and UK red lines werent compatible.
right but that was obvious from the start
Tim isn't gone
as for the irish border? Annex the republic of Ireland. Military operations will be over within days and the screaming will be over by easter ... a easter, hopefully this coming easter .... 😉
He's just offline
That May is still going is a testament to the inadequacy of your political system. As for Ireland, people are just deliberately being difficult on all sides across this whole transition. I sincerely doubt no actual solution can be reached
if we had an alternative political system we would never have got the referendum
UKIP would have grown to be the nations 3rd largest party
we'd end up like france :S forever running a russian roulette every election that people would be so dillusioned to pull the trigger and vote for a nutty right or nutty left party
though, I'm fed up with FPTP