Message from @Ranko

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2019-01-21 14:47:11 UTC  

anti-semite =/= anti Judaism. Although the work is poorly constructed for its current use because technically anyone afraid of an Arab is an "anti-semite".

2019-01-21 14:47:17 UTC  

Semite: " A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians."

2019-01-21 14:47:34 UTC  

in common parlance though, anti-semite means anti-Jew

2019-01-21 14:47:48 UTC  

wow. another woman killed in austria.

2019-01-21 14:47:53 UTC  

yeah, when i fist learned about the word antisemite i wondered if it worked for all semitic religions

2019-01-21 14:47:57 UTC  

got stabbed in a store

2019-01-21 14:48:17 UTC  

you can, or should be, able to criticize the religion without criticizing the ethnicity. Although it is hard when everyone, including ethnic jews, conflate the two.

2019-01-21 14:48:24 UTC  

and being technically anti-Semitic towards any other Semites (besides Jews) is usually just deemed islamophobia

2019-01-21 14:48:29 UTC  

regardless of religion

2019-01-21 14:48:44 UTC  

or just racism

2019-01-21 14:48:46 UTC  

@mer.at by a muslim ofc?

2019-01-21 14:48:46 UTC  

or xenophobia

2019-01-21 14:48:48 UTC  

or whatever

2019-01-21 14:49:05 UTC  

just like being against israel doesn't make you an anti-semite, although it is also conflated with all jews as well.

2019-01-21 14:49:07 UTC  

There's no consistency in the kind of people who use those terms so easily anyway

2019-01-21 14:49:12 UTC  

we don't know yet

2019-01-21 14:49:35 UTC  

yeah

2019-01-21 14:49:42 UTC  

i mean, criticizing the religion itself is fine, but it's the followers who do the things, not the texts themselves

2019-01-21 14:49:45 UTC  

but austria has 8 million people. it's not normal that we get 1-2 murders every week.

2019-01-21 14:49:48 UTC  

but american jews arent semites then right?

2019-01-21 14:50:16 UTC  

and allow the things to take place, by their subscription to said texts

2019-01-21 14:50:24 UTC  

basically everyone has worked hard to make that shit confusing. All sides. either to shield something from criticism or to work people into conspiracies.

2019-01-21 14:50:31 UTC  

there was a murder in a church not long ago

2019-01-21 14:51:12 UTC  

say hello to the culture enrichment

2019-01-21 14:52:16 UTC  

@Kibec if they are an ethnic jew, they are. If they converted to Judaism while being of some other ethnicity, particularly those which do not also fall under the term "semite", they are not.

2019-01-21 14:53:10 UTC  

Just like how being tied to the church and being protective of it allowed (and still allows probably) priests to diddle kids that easily. Being religious is being complicit in that sense. it becomes hard not to resent or at least hold in low regard people of a faith by association, even if individually people aren't bad apples

2019-01-21 14:53:58 UTC  

soo most of the american jews shouldnt be semites right? cus there is probability they are like 2nd or 3rd generation of jews in america, no?

2019-01-21 14:54:25 UTC  

technically no, but it's doesn't matter

2019-01-21 14:54:35 UTC  

that's not what anti-semitic means anymore

2019-01-21 14:54:40 UTC  

doesn't have anything to do with semites

2019-01-21 14:54:43 UTC  

im new here lol

2019-01-21 14:54:47 UTC  

*inhails*

2019-01-21 14:54:49 UTC  

yeah it is not like they care about facts and definitions

2019-01-21 14:54:50 UTC  

orange man bad

2019-01-21 14:54:56 UTC  

it's purely about Jews/Israel/Judaism

2019-01-21 14:54:57 UTC  

@Ranko i will counter and say being religious does not make you complicit as there are plenty of religious people in the same sect who do not support the church.

2019-01-21 14:55:29 UTC  

Well, shit, I guess in that case all Americans are complicit with the explosion of children in the Middle East.

2019-01-21 14:55:31 UTC  

sect like far-leftism xD dogma 1 : orange man bad xD

2019-01-21 14:55:49 UTC  

You hold Americans in low regard by association, even if individually they're not bad apples.

2019-01-21 14:55:58 UTC  

It seems to be criticizing Israel for anything is heresy

2019-01-21 14:56:06 UTC  

by calling youself a follower of a certain ideology or group, you give that group power in percieved numbers, that makes politics caters to said groups