Message from @Ranko

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2019-01-23 15:35:45 UTC  

just like the bbc

2019-01-23 15:35:46 UTC  

lol

2019-01-23 15:35:47 UTC  

Just like unions are "for the people"

2019-01-23 15:35:59 UTC  

Until the guy at the top decides fuck y'all

2019-01-23 15:36:03 UTC  

But the march through the institutions means it's been corrupted.

2019-01-23 15:36:18 UTC  

I've been well-represented by unions in OZ my whole life.

2019-01-23 15:36:20 UTC  

ABC is exclusive inner city liberal type shit

2019-01-23 15:36:26 UTC  

Much better than in other places.

2019-01-23 15:36:35 UTC  

But again, yes, corruption exists.

2019-01-23 15:36:35 UTC  

Well in 2012 l;ike 3 unions went down for massive corruption

2019-01-23 15:36:51 UTC  

Labor candidates in NSW in kahoots with them

2019-01-23 15:36:59 UTC  

The problem isn't the institutions themselves.

2019-01-23 15:37:00 UTC  

Eddie Obeid was the big one

2019-01-23 15:37:05 UTC  

It is the corruptionof them.

2019-01-23 15:37:09 UTC  

Sure.

2019-01-23 15:37:31 UTC  

I mean the problem with communism is that if it worked it would be great but it doesn't because it can be perverted

2019-01-23 15:37:37 UTC  

you gotta make the system so it cannot be corrupted

2019-01-23 15:37:44 UTC  

not the other way around

2019-01-23 15:37:46 UTC  

Yeah most unions seem to run for profit in my experiences

2019-01-23 15:38:11 UTC  

That seems to be just as utopian as communism.

2019-01-23 15:38:22 UTC  

unions are security valves, when's the last time you saw an union really get to the bottom of an issue instead of faking outrage only to be satisfied with breadcrumbs

2019-01-23 15:38:28 UTC  

In fact, it looks like what the communists argue in some ways.

2019-01-23 15:38:42 UTC  

I have no doubt there's union corruption.

2019-01-23 15:38:43 UTC  

Well the problem is you can't make anything air tight

2019-01-23 15:38:49 UTC  

There is corruption everywhere.

2019-01-23 15:38:52 UTC  

just more degrees of "security"

2019-01-23 15:39:08 UTC  

I just think that unions are in principle a good thing.

2019-01-23 15:39:10 UTC  

My union signed away the benefits of new employees for benefits for old employees

2019-01-23 15:39:21 UTC  

They are why you have weekends.

2019-01-23 15:39:27 UTC  

I think Unions have been quickly superceded by social media

2019-01-23 15:39:36 UTC  

I don't have weekends though

2019-01-23 15:39:48 UTC  

Social media can organise people a lot quicker than Unions

2019-01-23 15:39:55 UTC  

You have time and a half and doublt time, then. Or you did...

2019-01-23 15:39:58 UTC  

modern protests are social media based

2019-01-23 15:39:59 UTC  

look at france, unions have been shown to be complicit with the state and powerful interest groups as soon as a roots movement sprung up

2019-01-23 15:40:03 UTC  

Until the unions got killed off.

2019-01-23 15:40:13 UTC  

Balance is key.

2019-01-23 15:40:17 UTC  

And checks and balances.

2019-01-23 15:41:16 UTC  

What if I want to form a counter-union?

2019-01-23 15:41:21 UTC  

Good luck