He didn't chose to have sex?

He was raped?

Rip

he may or may not have chosen to have sex

but

if he did

thats not consent to being a father

fucks sake

If you chose to engage in sex then you should acknowledge the risks. IMO

if the postal service breaks something, they have to replace that. NOT pay you your lost earnings

I don't want my tax dollars going to welfare sluts, either.

^

This book is intense holy shit

@That Guy [ なに!?! ] if the postal service breaks something, they have to replace that. NOT pay you your lost earnings
You are responsible for direct damages so the most a dad could be responsible for is paying half the abortion

yikes

@Redneo If one does not agree with abortion, then that's not fair.

if she doesnt agree with abortion thats her choice

Or if he doesn't

Men can be against abortion as well, despite not wanting a kid

thats possible, yeah. As it stands though thats not a choice he can make

Agreed.

I just feel like this conversation is truly multifaceted (and I hate saying this because it's usually just used as an excuse)

But there's so much to take into consideration in something like that

like what?

Religion, personal beliefs, their own upbringing

I mean, what's complicated?

Like there is a lot that factors into a persons decision making.

Considering how fucked the adoption process is in the US though, it seems almost more humane to abort it instead of putting it up for adoption. Odds are the kid will end up in the foster system.

Sure, mostly stupidity

eh, is a shitty life better than no life at all?

depens on what one means by shitty

id say yes

its better to not exist than to suffer

whaddup guys

itshaboi

I disagree.

perineum falcon

It's only because you are alive that you can suffer.

okay

@Paradox thats fine. i do think though we shouldnt force people to live, we should allow people in prison or involuntarily commited to the psych ward toreceive a lethal dose of morphine instead

calm down peter jordanson