Message from @Redneo

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2019-01-30 23:47:17 UTC  

its that even possible?

2019-01-30 23:47:36 UTC  

@Redneo True, theres no way of for sure telling if they do or don't have inner dialogue. They can claim they do or don't. Brain Scan them maybe?

2019-01-30 23:48:01 UTC  

you gotta be joking thats even posible? i mean how?

2019-01-30 23:48:12 UTC  

its also not something they were specificly asked about i dont think from what i remember

2019-01-30 23:48:37 UTC  

It might be one of those things that actually might be there, but you go to measure it like quantum physics and its not there.

2019-01-30 23:48:56 UTC  

just randomly reporting whats going on with them, thad didnt include any inner dialouge for some people

2019-01-30 23:49:19 UTC  

Heavey, Christopher L., and Russell T. Hurlburt. "The phenomena of inner experience." Consciousness and cognition 17.3 (2008): 798-810.

2019-01-30 23:49:26 UTC  

God i mean there should be explanations for that

2019-01-30 23:49:46 UTC  

" We used DES to describe 10 randomly identified moments of inner experience from each of 30 participants selected from a stratified sample of college students. We found that each of the five phenomena occurred in approximately one quarter of sampled moments, that the frequency of these phenomena varied widely across individuals, that there were no significant gender differences in the relative frequencies of these phenomena, and that higher frequencies of inner speech were associated with lower levels of psychological distress."

2019-01-30 23:49:56 UTC  

maybe they were distracted or they remembered something or were interested in a wall or a fly or something

2019-01-30 23:50:03 UTC  

I mean we can go further into the rabbit hole on inner dialogue, and drag out the MK-Ultra bullshit.

2019-01-30 23:50:08 UTC  

Hurlburt, Russell T., and Sarah A. Akhter. "Unsymbolized thinking." Consciousness and Cognition 17.4 (2008): 1364-1374.

2019-01-30 23:50:28 UTC  

I would also argue that Lawrence Kohlberg has commented on similar observations.

2019-01-30 23:50:32 UTC  

@stedly LSD? all for that

2019-01-30 23:50:32 UTC  

I mean even if its true its genetic right?

2019-01-30 23:50:51 UTC  

@Redneo They did a lot more than just LSD.

2019-01-30 23:50:56 UTC  

It depends on whether you investigate it from a purely linguistic perspective or from one of moral reflection and inner dialog.

2019-01-30 23:50:56 UTC  

(the acronym for LSD btw is german)

2019-01-30 23:51:02 UTC  

God if something like that would be real it would be really interesting

2019-01-30 23:51:04 UTC  

LisergSäureDiethylamid

2019-01-30 23:51:10 UTC  

Säure being german for acid

2019-01-30 23:51:12 UTC  

@Strufa I think that video also referenced that they cannot explain the root of their beliefs either, indicating that it wasn't something they created

2019-01-30 23:51:13 UTC  

lol

2019-01-30 23:51:22 UTC  

been a while since I watched it

2019-01-30 23:51:25 UTC  

Well but that i can accept

2019-01-30 23:51:38 UTC  

i mean most people just accept things cause it made them feel good

2019-01-30 23:51:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/540318225662214155/IMG_20190131_051500.jpg

2019-01-30 23:51:47 UTC  

And then he was killed off

2019-01-30 23:51:47 UTC  

thats why religion is always prevalent

2019-01-30 23:51:51 UTC  

Over and over again

2019-01-30 23:51:52 UTC  

Oh, Aydin Paladin made a video about that?

2019-01-30 23:51:57 UTC  

Hold on, I got some sauce... (don't judge me, ive had fun researching the subject)

2019-01-30 23:52:02 UTC  

She is usually pretty good on those subjects.

2019-01-30 23:52:16 UTC  

I'd have to watch it.

2019-01-30 23:52:24 UTC  

God yeah bring evidence i really want to learn about that

2019-01-30 23:52:40 UTC  

i mean god i knew the NPC shit was a meme but i never though it was even real

2019-01-30 23:53:14 UTC  

I have to say, that that video of hers was really interesting

2019-01-30 23:53:21 UTC  

There are definitely personality disordered people who don't seem to have such moral inner debate.

2019-01-30 23:53:36 UTC  

I am not sure what percentage of normal people lack such experience.

2019-01-30 23:53:40 UTC  

I been on the fence for this subject for a long time.