State education is a socialist spook

"teachers will be paid based on how well their students do but there will be no universal testing to determine how well they are doing"

Then the people that can write and do maths will actually get more.

this is an invalid argument and im sorry if that is over your head

You're a low IQ feller, aren't you? lol

Did they learn all the history? Did they learn all the English, did they learn all the math? How well they are performing in those subjects.

I disagree and you didt think this threw

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW IF THEY LEARNED IT

It is the overall general knowledge they obtained in that class.

WITHOUT A UNIVERSAL TEST TO COMPARE

WHAT THE FUCK

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HOW DO YOU KNOW

HOW WELL THEY DID

IF YOU DONT HAVE A TEST

Are you even reading what I am typing without just typing in all caps?

Well you don't need a universal test to compare whether they chose 4 when the question was 2+2

to compare grades you do

Passing children based on ONE TEST is fucking stupid.

otherwise one teacher will have an easier test

@charliebrownau I've thought this through for over a decade. You happen to take state education for granted as if that's the only way to go forward in the 21st century

especiaslly if the incentive is to have high grades in your class

to determine your pay

@Dusty Morgan argument is asinine

You can make the argument that if they haven't learned 2+2 then they haven't learned the material.

You are trying to tell me that universal standardize tests is the only way to determine if a student should pass a grade. A single fucking test that tests them on their overall knowledge they learned through the year, putting massive pressure on them in most cases they fail even though they do know the subject.

So, you have 2 questions really. 1 input, what are they meant to learn, 2 output, what did they learn.

"if they havent learned" = a standardized means of testing

Fitzydog . Well I do come from Australia with its national Socialist "demorcy" that you have forced state education, forced state vaction injections and forced state voting and no guns ..... Besides church schools disapearing and state places infected with Global Socialist LEFT progressive redict, we dont have a third option that is affordable or funded

Heck they were trying to make home schoolig illegal in AU

i get the feeling dusty morgan didnt do well in school

But determining the students based on how much they actually KNOW would be more sustainable and better teaching method instead of focusing a test onto them.

based on the disdain and also the terribly invalid argument

Police are hyper atm in my area

and the persistence of defending thereof

Fortunately.... I know exactly what happened

Basically a single fucking test would determine if they pass or not, if they will move to next class or not.

Taht is what you been telling me.

And then the teachers would be graded upon that.

Most students fail due to fucking pressure.