Message from @Saturn

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2020-02-22 04:03:45 UTC  

Nope

2020-02-22 04:04:15 UTC  

If you think it should be in politics or treat the scritpures literally instead of metaphorically then yes

2020-02-22 04:04:41 UTC  

Thats what I'm against

2020-02-22 04:05:13 UTC  

If I was a serial killer, this would be my argument against god: Is he willing to stop me, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then why am I still alive?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

2020-02-22 04:05:25 UTC  

I am mostly for whatever allows the most people to practice whatever they themselves believe, regardless of who it is.

2020-02-22 04:05:59 UTC  

And yeah, for you Saturn, I don’t care what you believe in as long as you don’t go out of your way to try and convert people

2020-02-22 04:06:07 UTC  

Like some nut job.

2020-02-22 04:06:17 UTC  

Religion and spirituality is part of being human, I get that.

2020-02-22 04:06:21 UTC  

I support the 1st ammendment except for the right to protest, I like it when I can go places in cities on highways without people standing there yelling

2020-02-22 04:06:26 UTC  

As long as people don’t force it on others, it’s fine.

2020-02-22 04:07:14 UTC  

That includes religion

2020-02-22 04:07:21 UTC  

I think people absolutely have the right to protest, but the question is to what extent can those rights infringe on the well-being of others.

2020-02-22 04:07:26 UTC  

Or even the convenience of others.

2020-02-22 04:07:53 UTC  

Well if you stand in the middle of a busy road and stop ambulences from getting through I dont like it

2020-02-22 04:07:55 UTC  

what kind of argument against god is that

2020-02-22 04:08:02 UTC  

Evidently, a fun little fact, the 1st Amendment only protects citizens from discrimination of the Federal Government, not of the State Governments. That loop-hole wasn't fully solved until the 14th Amendment.

2020-02-22 04:08:07 UTC  

That happened in milwalkee once

2020-02-22 04:08:12 UTC  
2020-02-22 04:08:26 UTC  

?

2020-02-22 04:08:40 UTC  

Sure, for sake of argument if you infringe an Ambulance from going through, you are infringing on someone else's rights.

2020-02-22 04:08:46 UTC  

So I can see a valid argument for that.

2020-02-22 04:08:52 UTC  

Yep

2020-02-22 04:08:53 UTC  

why do you call that an argument against god

2020-02-22 04:09:03 UTC  

It is, more than anything, a postulate.

2020-02-22 04:09:35 UTC  

@manga did you not read the context I gave? It’s essentially saying that if god existed, why do murders and hate still happen? Isn’t he omnipotent?

2020-02-22 04:09:48 UTC  

ok

2020-02-22 04:09:59 UTC  

im no religious person but i know the answer to that

2020-02-22 04:10:07 UTC  

at least the answer given

2020-02-22 04:10:10 UTC  

All knowing and all powerful

2020-02-22 04:10:20 UTC  

Also, why does Christianity show god as a male? Why not a female, or maybe ungendered?

2020-02-22 04:10:20 UTC  

To play a bit of a Devil's Advocate, should an Omnipotent God stop murders? And if so...why?

2020-02-22 04:10:39 UTC  

ok

2020-02-22 04:10:43 UTC  

If he doesn’t, he’s malevolent, which defeats the purpose of praying to him.

2020-02-22 04:11:00 UTC  

i dont care much for this discussion i was just wondering

2020-02-22 04:11:01 UTC  

Why ask for help from someone who wishes the opposite on you?

2020-02-22 04:11:06 UTC  

No he shouldn't because it'll mess up the world if we have a immortal god running around murdering people instead of them going to trial

2020-02-22 04:11:14 UTC  

@Saturn No. Because He has allowed humans free will.

2020-02-22 04:11:15 UTC  

there are a lot of religious people here

2020-02-22 04:11:26 UTC  

its drew

2020-02-22 04:11:29 UTC  

😄

2020-02-22 04:11:34 UTC  

Hey manga