Message from @Koninos

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2020-03-05 20:39:36 UTC  

Depends on the case

2020-03-05 20:39:47 UTC  

Russian Imperialism into Europe

2020-03-05 20:40:23 UTC  

That^ should be the answer to my previous question, but which imperialism does not annoy you?

2020-03-05 20:40:41 UTC  

Again, depends on case

2020-03-05 20:40:52 UTC  

Give me an example.

2020-03-05 20:41:20 UTC  

Don't have any on hand, as I said - I would come to a judgement once I observe the situation

2020-03-05 20:45:19 UTC  

Things are pretty messed up in your mind, I've figured, but I'll let you know that all forms of Imperialism, regardless of the case, are stupid and detrimental in three levels - for the attacker, for the defender(s), and for the world in general. So you don't need to observe any case at all. Imperialism is like robbing. You could rob a house of poor people, a house of wealthy people and a bank. The house of the poor will be easier to break into, but the prize will be small, the house of the wealthy will be harder to break into, but the prize will be large, the bank is extremely hard to break into, but the prize will be extremely big. But robbing is robbing, and in all cases, no matter the situation, it is illegal and immoral. And so is Imperialism.

2020-03-05 20:47:49 UTC  

How is imperialism immoral?

2020-03-05 20:48:25 UTC  

I mean

2020-03-05 20:48:49 UTC  

Stealing a nation's land, for whatever reason, doesn't seem immoral to you?

2020-03-05 20:48:56 UTC  

Imperialism is more than just getting the wealth of a region

2020-03-05 20:49:06 UTC  

Well it can seem immoral but I am asking you what makes it so.

2020-03-05 20:49:15 UTC  

murder of mostly innocent people

2020-03-05 20:49:27 UTC  

also people will hate your guts for it

2020-03-05 20:49:31 UTC  

so?

2020-03-05 20:49:36 UTC  

Bruh

2020-03-05 20:49:47 UTC  

and it'll give incompatible people a pass to enter your country

2020-03-05 20:50:01 UTC  

I'm not saying I wanna kill people I just want to know why Koninos believes what he does

2020-03-05 20:50:02 UTC  

"I'm born in French Algeria meaning that I'm allowed to go to France"

2020-03-05 20:50:32 UTC  

or end up with a SA situation where your own people are getting murdered by the locals for the color of their skin

2020-03-05 20:50:52 UTC  

The many things that come with Imperialism:
A) The affection it has on innocent, or otherwise, humans.
B) The way it affects the other nation's economy, national integrity, and the nation's whole in general.
C) The way it mixes up populations so violently.
And more.

2020-03-05 20:51:06 UTC  

Ok but what makes any of that wrong?

2020-03-05 20:51:15 UTC  

look at Africa

2020-03-05 20:51:17 UTC  

The murder of humans isn't wrong?

2020-03-05 20:51:23 UTC  

Why do you believe it is?

2020-03-05 20:51:32 UTC  

Europe colonized the entire continent and shit hit the fan when they left

2020-03-05 20:51:38 UTC  

Why do you believe it's not?

2020-03-05 20:51:41 UTC  

it makes people rely on outside help to keep on living

2020-03-05 20:51:51 UTC  

What gives you the right to end the other's life?

2020-03-05 20:51:52 UTC  

think of domesticated pets and how they can't feed themselves

2020-03-05 20:52:04 UTC  

I never said it isn't I just want to know why you believe what you do.

2020-03-05 20:52:23 UTC  

Isn't it obvious? Isn't it common sense?

2020-03-05 20:52:27 UTC  

And why do I need a right to do something? If I am capable is that not enough justification?

2020-03-05 20:52:30 UTC  

Well no not really

2020-03-05 20:52:41 UTC  

Morality can't be tied to common sense because common sense changes

2020-03-05 20:52:51 UTC  

Imperialism was at one time, common sense.

2020-03-05 20:53:18 UTC  

So it's not obvious when you use the current common sense?

2020-03-05 20:53:39 UTC  

Killing in some cases is ok

2020-03-05 20:53:49 UTC  

Ok but what I am saying is that something being obvious doesn't necessarily attach morality to that thing

2020-03-05 20:53:54 UTC  

It's not obvious how killing other people, mentally hurting their society, friends, family, and causing negative feelings to another is a bad thing?

2020-03-05 20:53:58 UTC