Message from @Koninos
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Russia wants to expand it's influence and power, it is being selfish
And must be put in its place
Is it Russian nationalism and expansionism that annoys you, or is it nationalism and expansionism in general?
Russian imperialism
So if Ukraine did the same thing to Russia, you wouldn't mind, would you?
Can it even?
If it could.
"if"
Answer my question.
I would mind
Cooperation between the 2 nations is needed
Then which imperialism annoys you, exactly?
Imperialism
In general?
Depends on the case
Russian Imperialism into Europe
That^ should be the answer to my previous question, but which imperialism does not annoy you?
Again, depends on case
Give me an example.
Don't have any on hand, as I said - I would come to a judgement once I observe the situation
Things are pretty messed up in your mind, I've figured, but I'll let you know that all forms of Imperialism, regardless of the case, are stupid and detrimental in three levels - for the attacker, for the defender(s), and for the world in general. So you don't need to observe any case at all. Imperialism is like robbing. You could rob a house of poor people, a house of wealthy people and a bank. The house of the poor will be easier to break into, but the prize will be small, the house of the wealthy will be harder to break into, but the prize will be large, the bank is extremely hard to break into, but the prize will be extremely big. But robbing is robbing, and in all cases, no matter the situation, it is illegal and immoral. And so is Imperialism.
How is imperialism immoral?
I mean
Stealing a nation's land, for whatever reason, doesn't seem immoral to you?
Imperialism is more than just getting the wealth of a region
Well it can seem immoral but I am asking you what makes it so.
murder of mostly innocent people
also people will hate your guts for it
so?
Bruh
and it'll give incompatible people a pass to enter your country
I'm not saying I wanna kill people I just want to know why Koninos believes what he does
"I'm born in French Algeria meaning that I'm allowed to go to France"
or end up with a SA situation where your own people are getting murdered by the locals for the color of their skin
The many things that come with Imperialism:
A) The affection it has on innocent, or otherwise, humans.
B) The way it affects the other nation's economy, national integrity, and the nation's whole in general.
C) The way it mixes up populations so violently.
And more.
Ok but what makes any of that wrong?
look at Africa
The murder of humans isn't wrong?
Why do you believe it is?
Europe colonized the entire continent and shit hit the fan when they left
Why do you believe it's not?