i love how the mods are asleep

same

Post skeletons doing illegal things

@OrthoGoat I demand to see your pfp in big format

n word muted me cause i said the debate topic for the voice debate is retarded

idk if i still have it

lemme check

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<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***AntiLibertyAktion#5017 has been warned., rules***

Hello! Has anyone read "The Geography of Thought" by Richard E. Nisbett before?

@Blehh no but I'm interested

What is it about?

<@&682288520680964151> Daily Topic 📚

**-** Stoicism. Should men follow it, what does it entail, what is it's history?

Scroll up and you'll find all the answers you need.

yeah me and koninos had this topic already

stoicism good

Stoicism ok sometimes

I was thinking about respect recently, and the effects of respect in the individual's life. And then a more... moral, let's say, issue kicked in. Should we respect people who disrespect us? Or should we go with an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth? Respecting the ones who disrespect you shows a lot of superiority, but is it moral or healthy to do so? What do you think?

If you go off Biblical morality you should respect your enemies

Yes respect your enemies always. Eye for an eye regards justice.

Respect your enemies as you would your friends

If you go with Biblical morality, then it is contradicting itself because, you can't both follow the natural law, or go by with your natural/humane feelings and respect your enemies as you would your friends, since hate and disrespect towards your enemies is something very natural and very humane.

Natural =/= happens in nature

Obviously, but my point still stands.

If this is obvious to you, what you said is nonsense

Explain how it's nonsense, then.

Natural law pertains to natures, the ideal form of man. Respect and love is greater than hate and disrespect in regards to the perfect man.

The natural law is a body of principles and morals that strictly follow what's natural for a human to do. Showing hate and disrespect towards your enemies is very humane, and therefore by respecting your enemies as you would your friends, you're violating the natural law.

make the distinction/////////

@Koninos what is natural is not synonymous with what happens in nature, clearly you don't find this obvious.

I find this obvious but yet my point still stands.

literally the example i showed proves u wrong

Not really.

Not unless your definition of natural law is different.

ur being disingenuous

And what does this prove exactly? That hate or disrespect doesn't exist in the physical world without the people controlling it? i can't see how that proves me wrong.

ur not making the distinction and instead saying that natural is "usual way that a person or an animal behaves that is part of their character"

genuine dishonesty here

How am I being genuinely dishonest? To start with, I never said that natural is the way a person or an animal behaves that is part of their character, because that would mean that a psychopath behaves naturally. What I said, is that all feelings that one can feel are natural, and for religious people, constructions of God. Hate is one of the many feelings that we humans can feel -thanks to God, if you're religious- and hence is natural. Same with disrespect. Therefore, by respecting your enemy as much as you would respect your friend, you defy nature, and hence this "biblical morality" of some sort, is contradicting its own self.

semantics debates are useless.... but anyway thats literally the same thing since both refers to the the basic or inherent features, character, or qualities of something