by not educating children

Precept 1: Preserve Life

Okay, let's say I follow that one, but ignore the rest

so you are admitting that precept 1 is necessary

no it's not

but that one is more complicated to argue so I would rather start with another

let's say I decide not to have children

on a macro scale, 1 person not having children doesnt matter, but on a micro scale you will be a biological failure

uh wait we were talking about what I could do as an individual no?

both

I can't organize a society I don't have the influence.

again

theres no difference between the individual and the society

😑

is there a difference between me and you?

thats not what i mean and you know it

But both influence each other, yes?

well I have no idea what you mean now

because you're saying the individual and society are identical

i think you do and just refuse to admit you understand

and yet when I ask about my decisions as an individual, you say those are not the decisions of society!

so clearly, by your own line of reasoning I am not equivalent to society

because otherwise, you would have let me continue with my "what if I don't have children" example

consider the macro scale then

what if the entire society does what you do

it dies out

it fails

okay what if I don't care

why should I care?

then you literally do not belong in any society at all

if I planned to kill myself, I probably don't care

This comes down, again, to why a succesfful society is necesssarily better than a failed society?

By definition

because the 5 percepts seem to presuppose that a successful society is superior

Success is superior to failure by definition

no absolutely not

think sports

think the holocaust 😂

sometimes failure is superior to success by our metrics

A first place swimmer is a superior swimmer to a second place swimmer

i mean