That's how the creed originally read.

But Catholics like you have your heads so far up your own asses that you feel the need to change it for no reason whatsoever, tampering with the original creed and removing it's validity as an unchanged, timeless tradition.

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I CANNOT

STRESS WHAT YOU JUST SAID

ENOUGH

ok

Instead of listening to the church fathers that made the institution what it is today you listen to a man appointed by men instead of listening to men appointed by God.

"We Orthodox do not reflexively ask, “What does Rome (or New Rome) think?”, but rather, “What did the Fathers say?” For us, the first, strongest, and abiding authority is that of the patristic consensus."

The term filioque was first brought up at the Third Council of Toledo where the Visigoths in spain were rejecting arianism and accepting Roman Catholicism.

At the time it was officially added to Roman Catholic liturgy, there was still a great deal of arian heresy in the 700s

To clarify, I am not a Roman Catholic, I've just studied history on these topics.

I will say that the Eastern Church probably has got it right in regards to the Lord's Supper, simply saying, Jesus is present and leaving it at that.

```When the Greeks spoke of the “procession” of the Holy Spirit, they had in mind the Greek word ekporeusis, the term, in fact, used in John 15:26 cited above, when Jesus said the Holy Spirit “proceeds from the Father.” This term refers to the essential and “first” origin of the Holy Spirit, which, the Greeks had right, is from the Father alone. It is the teaching of all Christians, East and West, that the Father is the soul monarch, or source (arche) of the entire Godhead.
Greek has another term, proienai, which is used among the Greek fathers for the Son’s role involving not the “first” origin of the Holy Spirit; rather, the procession of the Person of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son that in no way denies the Father as first principle of life on the Godhead.
The Latins used procedit (“proceeds”) from the Vulgate translation of John 15:26 that has a more general meaning that can incorporate either ekporeusis or proienai in Greek. The Latins emphasized a meaning akin to proienai. Thus, the Latins never intended to deny the sole monarchy of the Father, while some in the East seemed not to be able to understand the Western concept of procedit.
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The arian heresy has nothing to do with the filioque

And that large text wall just confirms that there's no point in arguing about a one word change.

It's just that the Latin translation implies the Catholic interpretation and the Greek translation implies the Orthodox interpretation.

And it even confides with the Ortho interpretation.

"When the Greeks spoke of the “procession” of the Holy Spirit, they had in mind the Greek word ekporeusis, the term, in fact, used in John 15:26 cited above, when Jesus said the Holy Spirit “proceeds from the Father.” This term refers to the essential and “first” origin of the Holy Spirit, which, the Greeks had right, is from the Father alone. "

@Eoppa

What I am saying is Catholics agree on this, why did you quote it again?

The Orthodox interpretation isn't wrong, rejecting the filioque is

<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question 🔖

- If you had to rank each major religion from worst to best what order would it be?

For ideas use Christianity, Islam, Sikhism, Buddhism, Judaism and Hinduism; add more if you wish and elaborate on your placements

Christianity > Islam > most religions > Judaism

Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Judaism, Islam, Christianity

"and elaborate on your placements"

buddhism
Sikhism
Christianity
Judaism
islam

Three Abrahamic religions are the best of course, Islam is closer to perfection (Christianity) than Judaism. And Hinduism is the worst because it is too rigid to allow people to convert to Christianity

And idk much about Sikhs so I called them neutral

1) Christianity - The best
2) Slavic Paganism - only because i know a lot about it, cultural ties
3) Nordic Paganism - eh
4) Buddhism - very altruistic, kind, patient, and anti-hednoistic, i respect them as people a lot
5) General European Paganism - eh
6) Islam - Partially their social values and respect of Jesus
7) Paganism in general - eh
negative infinity) Judaism - obv why
8) Mormonism

1. Islam
2. Christianity
3. Judaism
4. everything else

as for the denominations of christanity, imo

1) Traditionalist Protestant (Baptist), not the modern shit
2) Orthodox
3) Puritans
4) European Protestants
5) Catholics
6) American Catholics
7) American Protestants

Orthodox Christianity
Any other form of Christianity
Islam
Buddhism
Hinduism
Atheism
Paganism
Satanism
Judaism

In order of best to worst. Islam is pretty close to Christianity belief wise, but relies on hatred and war, and lacks the empathy that Christians have. Buddhism and Hinduism are fairly Nihilist but they don’t do much, so they are ok. Atheism is just full of homosexuals and degenerates with no will to live. Paganism is almost the same as Atheism just with nordic Gods and larping. Satanism and Judaism are nearly the exact same, but at least Satanists openly say they are Satanists, and most Satanists are just edgelords. Jews hide behind closed doors and worship baphomet and moloch. Jews truly are scum.

I don’t hold much hate for Islamic people

Jews though