then testing is pointless

So what's our purpose here

For such a short time

Relatively

Compared to infinity

To attain grace

our purpose is only what God tells us what our purpose is, the reason He created us is unknown to us

all God says of His creation is that "it is good"

2 different explainations

Without the physical the metaphysical is useless, our soul needs something physical

the explanations aren't different

I still agree with Drasko

@Eoppa Why

Because that's what the soul is

That's why there is no faith without works

Our purpose is to perform good acts in the world, to choose to love God

Who said the soul can't be non-physical

Physicalness is a concept

The soul isn't necessarily physical

But it needs the physical

Why

Think Aristotelian forms for something similar

Why does it need a form

The soul is your form

Why can't it exist in an "aetherial" state

Because that's heretical first of all, second of all, then there is no point to it

Commiting mortal sin stains your soul, your essence, and excludes you from unification with the divine essence

That's not what I'm asking

Aetherial is physical

It just pushes you back a step

Hold on that's slightly off

We can attone for sins after death

To some degree

Not mortal sins

Venial sins yes

i'm pretty sure emperor trajan is in heaven due to prayers from some 3rd century saint

I doubt that, if he didn't recieve the Grace of God he can't be, but if I'm misinformed then idk

we shouldn't doubt God's mercy

i'll give the name of the saint in a moment

he's venerated in the latin church too i'm sure of it

Well the doctrine is that God gives you mercy, but you need to cooperate with it