Message from @Draško
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Physicalness is a concept
The soul isn't necessarily physical
But it needs the physical
Why
Think Aristotelian forms for something similar
Why does it need a form
The soul is your form
Why can't it exist in an "aetherial" state
Because that's heretical first of all, second of all, then there is no point to it
Commiting mortal sin stains your soul, your essence, and excludes you from unification with the divine essence
That's not what I'm asking
Aetherial is physical
It just pushes you back a step
Hold on that's slightly off
We can attone for sins after death
To some degree
Not mortal sins
Venial sins yes
i'm pretty sure emperor trajan is in heaven due to prayers from some 3rd century saint
I doubt that, if he didn't recieve the Grace of God he can't be, but if I'm misinformed then idk
i'll give the name of the saint in a moment
he's venerated in the latin church too i'm sure of it
Well the doctrine is that God gives you mercy, but you need to cooperate with it
If he died in mortal sin you can't atone for those sins as far as I know
yeah saint gregory the great
raised trajan to heaven through prayer
this is even referenced in the divine comedy, so yes it is believed among catholics
not that divine comedy is dogma
but catholic society respects this idea i'm implying
<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***ofvo#8313 has been warned., Wrong channel***
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Anti croatian mod team
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```The emperor answered: If I come again from the battle whole and sound then I shall do justice for the death of thy son. Then said the widow: Sire, and if thou die in the battle who shall then avenge his death? And the emperor said: He that shall come after me. And the widow said: Is it not better that thou do to me justice and have the merit thereof of God than another have it for thee? Then had Trajan pity and descended from his horse and did justice in avenging the death of her son. On a time Saint Gregory went by the market of Rome which is called the market of Trajan, and then he remembered of the justice and other good deeds of Trajan, and how he had been piteous and debonair, and was much sorrowful that he had been a pagan, and he turned to the church of Saint Peter wailing for the horror of the miscreance of Trajan. Then answered a voice from God saying: I have now heard thy prayer, and have spared Trajan from the pain perpetual. By this, as some say, the pain perpetual due to Trajan as a miscreant was some deal taken away, but for all that was not he quit from the prison of hell, for the soul may well be in hell and feel there no pain by the mercy of God. (The Life of St. Gregory the Pope)```
@Sentient23 Wrong channel dipshit
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Long but the last couple sentences
He probably is in more of a state of limbo
didn't even make the connection that this is pope gregory
Oh yeah lol