no, you're not answering any of my questions

you can't tell me why i should care about the survival of my species

not even getting into the moral gorge that that opens, because your justifications also moralizes various other things like eugenics, but i'll ignore that

i'll say it again, there is no objective worth to life, or anything, if there isn't a God

therefore i shouldn't give it any subjective value

the only conclusion is nihilism and proceeding from that, hedonism

Look, drasko, I'm not going to keep arguing this with you because you clearly have no intentions of attempting to see my viewpoint.

you can't explain it that's why you're trying to end it

tell me again, why should i care about the survival of my species?

there is no objective worth to anything.

yes

so how can then morality exist

we have to make it worth something to us.

because?

because there is no such thing as objective morality

okay, so you're basically admitting i'm right

you just want a functioning social contract

No morality is subjective and caused by the chemicals in our brains.

okay

so then it's not morality

it's a social contract

morality is a conviction that something is correct and good, not a tool for survival

if it's a tool for survival then it's a social contract

Morality is not a social construct. But it helped constrcut society.

what?

you just exclaimed the opposite

if morality is subjective, that means that it's entirely defined by human opinion

that's a social construct

That does not mean it's a social construct.

yes it does

do you know what a social construct is?

Definition of social construct. formal. : an idea that has been created and accepted by the people in a society @moira

it is a social construct

Please, shut up. This is going nowhere.

it's literally going

you've run into a brick wall

you have to admit that your perception of morality is that it's a social construct

No. It's just me saying that neither party is willing to accept the others reasoning.

i think you just haven't thought hard enough about it, friend

if it's really bugging you that much then sure, we can stop

but any neutral third party reading this will realize that this is a logical conclusion