Message from @Draško
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>Noone told you this is your goal. And yet, it is. Or, at least it should be.
because...? you believe that life came about by chance. there's nothing valuable about it. my life is about as valuable as a rock falling down a mountain
no, you're not answering any of my questions
you can't tell me why i should care about the survival of my species
not even getting into the moral gorge that that opens, because your justifications also moralizes various other things like eugenics, but i'll ignore that
i'll say it again, there is no objective worth to life, or anything, if there isn't a God
therefore i shouldn't give it any subjective value
the only conclusion is nihilism and proceeding from that, hedonism
Look, drasko, I'm not going to keep arguing this with you because you clearly have no intentions of attempting to see my viewpoint.
you can't explain it that's why you're trying to end it
tell me again, why should i care about the survival of my species?
there is no objective worth to anything.
yes
so how can then morality exist
we have to make it worth something to us.
because?
because there is no such thing as objective morality
okay, so you're basically admitting i'm right
you just want a functioning social contract
No morality is subjective and caused by the chemicals in our brains.
okay
it's a social contract
morality is a conviction that something is correct and good, not a tool for survival
if it's a tool for survival then it's a social contract
Morality is not a social construct. But it helped constrcut society.
what?
you just exclaimed the opposite
if morality is subjective, that means that it's entirely defined by human opinion
that's a social construct
That does not mean it's a social construct.
yes it does
do you know what a social construct is?
Definition of social construct. formal. : an idea that has been created and accepted by the people in a society @moira
it is a social construct
Please, shut up. This is going nowhere.
it's literally going
you've run into a brick wall
you have to admit that your perception of morality is that it's a social construct
No. It's just me saying that neither party is willing to accept the others reasoning.
i think you just haven't thought hard enough about it, friend
if it's really bugging you that much then sure, we can stop