feel as if deep down you know your explanation is dogshit

@Draško look, I'm not going to keep arguing Religion with you. You clearly do not want to be convinced otherwise, but think you desperatly need to change me for 'the better'. And I do not wish to be convinced bcause I am very sure in my non-belief. as you can see, we both have the same problem of not wanting to be ocnvinced of the others point, and we can't see each others stance at all. Us arguing any more about Religion is pointless.

we're not arguing about religion now

we're arguing about morality in an atheistic society

you can't justify any morality in your world view and you're just proving i'm right with your sophist arguments

i am answering your questions. You just keep ignoring it because ti challenges your viewpoint and you can't handle that.

>Noone told you this is your goal. And yet, it is. Or, at least it should be.
because...? you believe that life came about by chance. there's nothing valuable about it. my life is about as valuable as a rock falling down a mountain

no, you're not answering any of my questions

you can't tell me why i should care about the survival of my species

not even getting into the moral gorge that that opens, because your justifications also moralizes various other things like eugenics, but i'll ignore that

i'll say it again, there is no objective worth to life, or anything, if there isn't a God

therefore i shouldn't give it any subjective value

the only conclusion is nihilism and proceeding from that, hedonism

Look, drasko, I'm not going to keep arguing this with you because you clearly have no intentions of attempting to see my viewpoint.

you can't explain it that's why you're trying to end it

tell me again, why should i care about the survival of my species?

there is no objective worth to anything.

yes

so how can then morality exist

we have to make it worth something to us.

because?

because there is no such thing as objective morality

okay, so you're basically admitting i'm right

you just want a functioning social contract

No morality is subjective and caused by the chemicals in our brains.

okay

so then it's not morality

it's a social contract

morality is a conviction that something is correct and good, not a tool for survival

if it's a tool for survival then it's a social contract

Morality is not a social construct. But it helped constrcut society.

what?

you just exclaimed the opposite

if morality is subjective, that means that it's entirely defined by human opinion

that's a social construct

That does not mean it's a social construct.

yes it does

do you know what a social construct is?

Definition of social construct. formal. : an idea that has been created and accepted by the people in a society @moira

it is a social construct

Please, shut up. This is going nowhere.