we're talking about translating into English and the only reason it was able to be translated into English is because an army was protecting the translators from the Catholic Church

The first person that put it into English was murdered by the Catholic Church

@Draško if they didn't murder everyone, how come Martin Luther had to hide in a castle when translating it into German?

everyone that tried to put it in any language other than Latin was murdered by the Catholic church if the Catholic church was able to do it

you're ignoring the political climate that was around when they murdered everyone

The reason is because translating it is editing it

yes, i know who william tyndale is

again, please watch the video i sent you

The only people that weren't murdered or people that had armies protecting them

i know that translating is technically editing it

Anyway the argument that it hasn't been edited is ridiculous

I think we can agree that editing has been done

but eventually we came to a point where we can safely say that the document has the exact same information

PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO

But translating was not very much editing. The really big editing happened when they chose which books to put in the Bible. They removed all kinds of stuff. they didn't add very much they just mostly removed stuff. No question it was edited.

And this happened over thousands of years.

> you're ignoring the political climate that was around when they murdered everyone
@Draško oh that justifies it. "We were killing everyone, so these few people, so what?" Papa Stalin would be proud of you.

Taking all of those different books and trying to make one book out of it was extreme editing

no reason to continue this discussion if you refuse to watch the video i sent.

nobody is arguing that it's word for word the same book. the point is that there were no massive changes that would affect dogma

Even now the Catholic church has a different Bible than Protestant churches

and since you're typing lemi, i can see that you're not watching it

so there really isn't any point in talking to you about this

you're deliberately avoiding to look at my points and what i'm bringing forward

I can type and listen AT THE SAME TIME

alright

WOOOOO MAGIC!

my phone can't do that 😅

ok i'm going to bed, God bless you

sorry for any harsh words that might've been shared in this discussion

@Draško count your blessings, brother. I go through phones yearly.

@Gothik Extravaganza he was baptised and rose to heaven after he rose from the dead

God be with you until we meet again, Drasko. It's been fun.

now as for these "claims" they are false and unbiblical, as when Christ comes again, rapture happens, he doesn't just pop in and say "hi" every once in a while

and it is easy to claim that you were visited

@moira baptised, taught, prayed, captured, crucified, resurrected, taught some more, ascended to heaven. Comes down from heaven to teach the Nephites.

Jesus Christ was the god of the old testament and yes he does pop in and out and say hi

while we have thousands of claims and a report by a Roman historian that he lived again after his death, yet no records to this scale exist for anything after

God did not stop communicating

That is false doctrine